In a democracy?Who decides degrees of evil vs degrees of personal good?
I have not talked about "collectivism". If that Strawman was any bigger, it could walk around with a lion, a tin man and a little girl from Kansas.Collectivism often hides a lack of ability to care for others.
I can: in any exchange, it is quite clear what is individualistic behaviour and what is selfishness, if you compare the gain for one person to the cost for the other and you put it into perspective with the free will of the two.You can't even answer that question for yourself and yet you want it to be legislated. All of the ideas you have espoused on these boards over the years are exactly what was attempted in USSR and other similar regimes, we all know how they all turned out.
Mankind has five major evolutionary advantages that helped them survive, grow, thrive:Every single living creature is selfish, that is the basic tenet of evolution.
Part of the way that Kemp got elected was by being in a position that allowed him to purge minority voters from the voter rolls.In a democracy?
Don't worry you get what you deserve. In the case of Georgia they voted for a guy who thought this was the appropriate image for a responsible gun owner, threatening the life of others. What do you know hes now threatening the lives of all of us by poor decisions because; he didn't know about asymptomatic infection, just like he doesn't see the problem with opening up the beaches despite Florida's very visible numbers. Hey go out and be an individual there is no reason to think of the greater good.
The Oklahoma governor still hasn't enacted a stay at home order but he did order some businesses closed after weeks of no response at all. The attack on his lack of protective gear was to illustrate his lack of seriousness.
Granted the Twitter source was partisan. But again beyond the lack of personal protecting the Gov. has been slow to act. But ignore that because we're not supposed to be partisan.I know nothing about this guy, but the linked article looks like partisan garbage.
The governor seems to be wearing the same level of protection as the medical staff.
And yes, all leaders go to disaster areas to see what is going on. It's a sign of leadership.
Now is not the time for divisive politics. Look outside of your political tribe. Political tribalism is a luxury for times of peace and calm.
I noted the Twitter handle belongs to a conservative radio show
So partisan thus bad though the Gov. is a dip yet ok that it's from a conservative radio show even though the person's good intentionI'm not sure how the messenger's personality relates to the message?
Calls me a child. (Also attacks LeVeL which I don't know why he was brought into it whom I've agreed with on occasion so maybe he's hoping we'll Avengers assemble into a partisan super group)Or...here's a better idea. You don't respond to it like I did my parents when they denied me that second ice cream (or channeling LeVeL, whichever you prefer), try and look at it from a non-political perspective (literally every reply after the first one has either "republican" "the president" or "Trump"), and gain the ability to call out nonsense from all sides, political and apolitical. It's better, it creates reasoned discourse.
Though I suppose that would involve effort, and force you to consider things beyond your personal feelings and biases towards media, the administration, and everyone supporting or condemning it. I personally believe this is a fair trade-off for a more complete view of the landscape, but you may feel different about it.
Belgium has a large government in the view of American definitions. Belgium had what was believed to be the longest period in which a developed country has been without an elected government of 589 days.Firstly, this is a belief, not a fact. Secondly, I consider this belief to be profundly wrong.
BUT thirdly, this has nothing to do with covid-19, not even with politics, but with political theory. Which I am very willing to discuss but not in this thread.
On that, as usual, important modifications to our lives and worldwide crises bring the topic on political and economical organization. Always on the crisis-specific threads... However, you are right in pointing out it has to be moved elsewhere, as always.Consider moving this conversation somewhere else?
I am sure willing to try and find a dialogue, but I don't think a rewarding (or even acceptable, in some cases) compromise is actually reachable. After many years, things are still more or less at the starting point.The conversation about economical systems is lovely and I wish to see if it reaches a compromise, an agreement to disagree, if someone brings up that that big advantage is also a disadvantage when you get to really high amounts of reward, or if it devolves into namecalling and shitfling.
It is. What I say is: it is not enough. Following just instinct brings us to the problems I listed before; cyclically, continuously, inescapably. It is time to try to address the issues that bring us all there all the time. And I don't start with any pre-defined solutions or slogan word or fanatical ideology "clearly better" than others. Because the problems are complex and complicated on multiple levels.You are correct. However, it is the closer to the basic primitive instinct of "do thing, get reward". Carrot and stick, bell and saliva, take your pic.
Shouldn't we be evolve a little, then, instead of repeating the same errors over and over and over?So basically what humans have been doing since cave times more or less...
You're not wrong even if a government program is socialist we can always rebrand it. Like Catholics with Christmas pagan beginnings we can absorb it's essence make it our own.It is ingrained that "capitalism=what we have=the best of the bestest". But that is religious-like thinking. Also, and this is particularly true with american commenters: there seem to be no alternative to monolithic, god-like, all-mighty and all-good Capitalism, except for evil, failure-ridden, inferior, monolithic communism in its most vicious soviet forms. Nothing else.
Americans see themselves as rich, if temporarily short on funds, hence raising taxes might hurt them when they get the billions they truly are worth. And once they have their billions they will pull up the ladders they climbed to protect themselves from the poors taking what's theirs. Nobody does it all alone but won't admit we didn't build the roads.The "individualism is the only way" is the lie selfish people tell you to get your things when they are stronger and exploit you when they need you.
No, I used to say Americans don't do anything till it's a crisis. Now I say Americans don't do anything. America is a failed state. I'd pay more in taxes but it's not asked of me so I watch children die and masturbate to the decadence we live in.Shouldn't we be evolve a little, then, instead of repeating the same errors over and over and over?
A couple of thoughts about your post. I see your points, and I agree that the system must constantly evolve to better serve the people within it. Unfortunately, the attempts that have been done to evolve the economic system has failed spectacularly, presicely because it centers around fixing the problems of human thinking instead of working alongside them, and they die as a result.*post*