SirEdward
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I know it sounds nice, but you can't solve this by trying to win over your enemies with the power of friendship.
Not your "enemies", but everyone else. Maybe even your "enemies", but they are not the most important people you have to convince.
The fact is that police have shown for over a century they don't care about certain people and being a police officer tends to attract people who want power over others.
It's not just that, and the phenomenon is the same all over the world; but yes, in the US things can get ridiculously grim very quickly.
There's a reason that domestic violence among police is estimated to be four times the national average.
I bet there is more than one. The power trip many police officers experience is the effect, not the cause.
Police are also not held accountable, which is why in all my years working on domestic violence cases, I never once saw a police officer charged.
This is bad. You need support to change it.
What you are proposing sounds lovely, but it's a fantasy. It's been tried and it didn't work, so now people are angry -- and White people are joining in. Polls show that BLM has more support among white people than ever before, we can see that in the makeup of the protests. For the first time White and Black disenfranchised are working together.
The US risk severe rioting and unrest (not now, after the elections); you are happy for a foreseeable future of clashes and violence; maybe you are right and this is the only way, but it still is what it is.
As for your claim that BLM is failing:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-lives-matter-police-reform-opinion-poll-28-06-2020/
This is stupid: I mostly agree with the general ideas of BLM in the fight against injustice. It does not mean I always agree with the methods and the specific solutions. I do not think I am alone.
Again. I too agree that "racism and discrimination [are] a “big problem”, " I perfectly understand "the anger behind the demonstrations" and I think it is "somewhat justified", I kno that "the police are more likely to use deadly force against African-Americans", and I agree that "there’s a lot of discrimination against black Americans in society". It's not exactly new.
Still, I do not think that the increment in violent protest is helping out that much.
I will quote the article to show something:
" Voters are more favorable to police in their community than police overall in Quinnipiac's poll, with 77% who approve of how the police in their communities are doing, compared to 49% who approve of how the police overall are doing their jobs. "
The US police has a very bad reputation, but when they do get to know them for real, the opinion is positive. How is that? Because the general opinion is always flooded with "the police who did bad", not with "the police who did good". Whatever you think, the police themselves feel this.
So yes, the US police needs reforms, but let's keep things rational.
Ok, then. Maybe I'll be shown wrong. I still disagree with the violent methods as a good way to get political consensus towards the next presidential election.
Well, this coming up in my feed is timely.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...otests-this-summer-were-peaceful-report-shows
90% peaceful, and all everyone is talking about, because it's what hits everyone harder, is the 10% violent.
Can you see how much damage violence is bringing to the movement?[/quote]