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Blogging is great. But you need the papers to ensure that the information becomes really public. The truth about bloggers and their likes is that they command little authority and have a somewhat weak level of believability. There are times when a blog post will find its way to wast numbers. And there are times when it won't.

Put it on the front page of the Guardian or Bild, and you're sure it'll get on BBC. And then anyone who's not completely ignorant will know about it.

We need freedom of the press. Period.
 

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I wouldn't call it gloomy.

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Please don't bring up some NWO bullcrap about the jews.. I'm begging you..
 

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Please don't bring up some NWO bullcrap about the jews.. I'm begging you..
What? No. Not talking about some loony conspiracy theory, merely the idea that being able to select between one or other bunch of useless, self-serving idiots is somehow democracy.
 

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I have no idea what this is about.
It's an ironic rendition of the theory that the jews run the world, on behalf of the free masons. It's the new world order.

What? No. Not talking about some loony conspiracy theory, merely the idea that being able to select between one or other bunch of useless, self-serving idiots is somehow democracy.
Oh, good. I've spent some months debating with those loonies who think the jews are behind it all, guess I got a little prejudiced.

Yes, I think I live in a democracy. While there isn't too much difference in policy, there are quite big differences in terms of political practice. Not to mention that I'm more than anything else talking about the idea of democracy. At least we vote, at least Gordon Brown gets voted out when he became unpopular. Wether that was right or not, I won't touch on, but at least that was a democratic reaction to a government that lost popular support.
 

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BBC News - News of the World to print 5m of final edition

UK Sunday paper circulation

* News of the World: 2.6m
* Mail on Sunday: 1.9m
* Sunday Mirror: 1.1m
* Sunday Times: 1m
* Sunday Express: 602,000
* Sunday Telegraph: 510,000
* The People: 480,000
* Sunday Mail: 367,000
* Daily Star Sunday: 309,000

Source: ABC (Average for April 2011)

I do feel a bit sorry for the jounalists about to loose their jobs, many of whom were not even working at the NotW when all the illegal stuff was going on.

Their only mistake was an error of judgement in going to the title and working for Murdoch in the first place. They must have known what he was like, everyone has for decades.

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Alastair Campbell & Paul McMullan Hacking Debate on Newsnight - NOTW Phone Hacking
[video=youtube;zkXrH5V-fPM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkXrH5V-fPM&feature=related[/video]

Shropshire public relations consultant JOOLS PAYNE saw the workings of the News Of The World first hand last year when her family was touched by tragedy
http://www.shropshirestar.com/news/2011/07/08/my-encounter-with-the-news-of-the-world/

Scotland Yard Assistant Commissioner John Yates says his decision not to reopen an investigation into News International in 2009 had been ?a pretty crap one?
In a further series of twists in the phone hacking scandal, The Sunday Telegraph can reveal:

? Max Mosley, who won a privacy case against the News of the World over articles detailing his sadomasochistic sexual practices, has been secretly bankrolling civil cases being brought by phone hacking victims against the tabloid;

? Rebekah Brooks will be questioned by police in coming days, according to a senior News International source;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8628052/John-Yates-I-failed-victims-of-News-of-the-World-phone-hacking.html

Ex News of the World journalist admits 'destroying' suicide victim he wrote about & paying police

News of the World writer regrets suicide of Denholm Elliott's daughter after hit piece
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1433889

Insider reveals: 'PR men would think up a story and Rebekah's Sun and News of the World would run it, word for word. Some were complete fiction '
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013046/Rebekah-Brooks-Sun-News-World-run-fictional-stories-insider-claims.html

Blair 'tried' to hush up hacking scandal as whistleblower MP told: 'Rebekah Brooks will pursue you for the rest of your life'
The allegations Mr Watson made under Commons protection from libel action include that:
?Rebekah Brooks was not only responsible for wrongdoing, but knew about it.?
?NI paid people to interfere with police officers on behalf of known criminals.?
?James Murdoch personally authorised money to be paid to silence hacking victims ? an attempt to pervert the course of justice.?
Mrs Brooks begged Blairite ex-Cabinet Minister Tessa Jowell to help ?stop this madman Tom Watson? ? and also sought help from her friend, Mr Blair.
Labour MP Chris Bryant, a phone-hack victim, branded NI ?gangsters?.
A NI executive threatened to take revenge on Ed Miliband for saying Mrs Brooks should quit.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013027/News-World-Blair-tried-hush-hacking-scandal-whistleblower-MP-told-Rebekah-Brooks-pursue-rest-life.html

Explosive article expected on Sunday by NoW insiders:
https://twitter.com/#!/ExNOTWJourno

How the papers got their stories
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12573584

News International's very own Sunday Times is saying up to 12 face prosecution, 3 cops and 9 journo's. Seems low figure, as it doesn't include NI executives, private investigators or staff at other newspapers.
 
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My bet is no cop over the rank of sergeant gets convicted, and only 9 journos, come on chaps. I think that for appearances sake that the Met HAS to hand over the investigation to an outside force. I suggest Strathclyde, it worked in the 1970s.
 

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http://blogs.reuters.com/mediafile/2011/07/07/is-murdoch-free-to-destroy-tabloids-records/

Because NoTW is folding it means that they can destroy any documents they like regardless of the police investigations.
As an American, I still cant get my head around that. Where I work, we work closely with the FDA, the DEA and many other federal agencies. We're told emphatically from day one: If crap happens, this still will be read, so make sure it's right the first time. Nothing can be hidden from any agency if they want to come in and investigate. And I think we have to keep everything for 20 years. (I think)

Sure some of you are taking the moral high ground, but if the general public didn't find sleazy things interesting, then NotW and other such red tops would not exist.
*raises hand*

I have to admit I'm guilty of that.

(Sorry for the worst analogy in... the world.)

I soooo read that in Jeremy's voice.
 

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News International found 'smoking gun' e-mails in 2007

News International found e-mails in 2007 that appeared to indicate that payments were being made to the police for information, although this evidence of alleged criminal behaviour was not handed to the Metropolitan Police for investigation until 20 June of this year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14099102

Focus of phone-hacking investigation shifts to Les Hinton

Top aide to Rupert Murdoch faces questions on whether he saw 2007 internal report on widespread hacking

The Guardian understands that Hinton was among five NI executives who had access to the report. The then News of the World editor, Colin Myler, and legal counsel, Tom Crone, as senior executives could have been expected to have seen it.

Hinton was succeeded by James Murdoch, who it is understood had no knowledge of the 2007 internal enquiry until recently. He joined NI from BSkyB, where he had been chief executive. Also in the dark was Rebekah Brooks, who at the time was editing the Sun.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/10/phone-hacking-investigation-les-hinton

News of the World's last breath: put the handkerchiefs aside

Sunday tabloid's final edition tries to disguise any villainy in sentimental farewell
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/10/news-of-the-world-last-edition

Cameron, Rebekah Brooks and 'the Chipping Norton set': The powerful clique's gilded life
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2013040/News-World-phone-hacking-Cameron-Rebekah-Brooks-Chipping-Norton-sets-gilded-life.html

I'm not sure who coined the expression the "Chipping Norton Set" but I suspect it was none other than my colleague Stephen Glover. But that, too, has caught the public imagination. It conjures up a group of rich people with country houses in or around the Oxfordshire town, a group that includes the PR man Matthew Freud (married to Rupert Murdoch's daughter Elisabeth), Rebekah Brooks and her racehorse trainer husband, and of course David Cameron and his wife, Samantha. Jeremy Clarkson is sometimes mentioned playing a walk-on part. All in all they could be members of the cast of an episode of Midsomer Murders.
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/columnists/richard-ingrams/richard-ingrams-the-country-set-that-makes-a-spiv-of-cameron-2309539.html

This story (Evening Standard) got deleted:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23968110-yard-bosses-feared-paper-would-print-stories-of-claimed-affairs.do
 
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'Brooks, catastrophe': Last laugh for NoTW staff as final crossword takes aim at Rebekah

Sacked News of the World staff appear to have fired a parting shot at their former editor Rebekah Brooks, disguising mocking messages in the crossword of the tabloid's final edition.

Brooks, now the chief executive of News International, reportedly brought in two loyal proofreaders to sanitise Sunday's final edition of any jibes directed at her following the newspaper's spectacular demise during the phone hacking scandal.

But they failed to detect the not-so-cryptic clues that appear to savage her in the crosswords on page 47.
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First priority ... Rupert Murdoch, pictured outside his London home with Rebekah Brooks. Photo: AP

Among the clues in the paper's Quickie puzzle were: "Brook", "stink", "catastrophe" and "digital protection".

The Cryptic Crossword appears to go even further, including the hints "criminal enterprise", "mix in prison", "string of recordings", and "will fear new security measure".

Another clue was "woman stares wildly at calamity", with suggestions it refers to a photograph of Mrs Brooks as she left the News International HQ in east London on Thursday after staff were told the paper would be shut down.


The News of the World's crossword page in its final edition. Photo: The Atlantic

The answer to that particular clue was "disaster".

Other answers included: "Deplored", "stench", "stir", "menace", "desist", "racket" and "tart".

A source at the News of the World told the Daily Mail that "Rebekah tried everything to stop the staff having the last word and she utterly failed".

"She brought in two very senior Sun journalists to go though every line on every page with a fine toothcomb to ensure there were no libels or any hidden mocking messages of the chief executive," the source said.

"But they failed and we've had the last laugh."

The decision to close the Rupert Murdoch-owned tabloid after 168 years in print follows an extraordinary week of revelations about intrusive phone hacking and alleged pay-offs to police from the newspaper. It was revealed that the tabloid had tapped into the phone messages of murdered schoolgirls and relatives of slain soldiers and 2005 London bombing victims.

The job losses sparked scenes of anger last week at the paper's headquarters, largely directed at Brooks.

She was the editor in charge when phone-tapping practices were used but has somehow been spared the knife.

In a secret recording made as she addressed staff on Friday, Brooks can be heard saying: "This is not exactly the best time in my life but I'm determined to get vindication for this paper and for people like you."

The staff then cheer as an unidentified male staff member angrily replies: "You're making the whole of News International toxic. There's an arrogance that you think we would want to work for you."

Murdoch flew in to London overnight to deal with the crisis engulfing News International, and was pictured leaving his apartment with his arm around Brooks, whom he described as his number one priority.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/brooks-catastrophe-last-laugh-for-notw-staff-as-final-crossword-takes-aim-at-rebekah-20110711-1h9p4.html

:lol:
 

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Dear poms,

Sorry about Newscorp and Rupert Murdoch, but this is what you get when you explode atomic bombs in our country and piss off with all the data. You fucked us over at Gallipoli, the Western Front, the Bodyline Series and Singapore. We came to your aid in every fucking war you got yourself in from 1900 'til the present (save Suez and the Falklands) and you treat us like aliens now. Murdoch is Australia's revenge and he also employs Jeremy Clarkson. :p
 

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I think that you will find that both the French and the British were at Gallipoli too. I do apoligise for the idiot general in charge however and I do assure you that there was no confrence of British commanders where top of the agenda was "How can we get most Australians and New Zealanders killed as possible".

I wonder who's history book have you been reading?

Details from Wiki but is in general correct AFAIK:

"At this time, early 1915, Australian and New Zealand volunteer soldiers were encamped in Egypt, undergoing training prior to being sent to France. The infantry were formed into the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps (ANZAC), which comprised the Australian 1st Division and the New Zealand and Australian Division. General Hamilton also had the regular British 29th Division, the Royal Naval Division (RND) (Royal Marines and hastily drafted naval recruits) and the French Oriental Expeditionary Corps (including four Senegalese battalions) under his command."

The major problem was that the Royal Navy (They like ships) would not force the straits taking the lost ships for the strategic advantage, had they turned up off shore of Istambul and shelled it then the Turks more than likly have left the war, instead the abortive campaign was fought.

Any how that American Rupert Murdoch has rolled into town, going to throw his weight about, this time we will see who has the backbone to stand up to him and his bully boy tactics.
 

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The thing about Rupert employing Clarkson is an interesting point. I can't imagine any other news story of this size without a mention from Clarkson during a TG episode.
 

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I think that you will find that both the French and the British were at Gallipoli too.
Yes they were. It was their war after all. Australians and New Zealanders (both my grandfathers amongst them) were there in support, because they thought it was the right and proper thing to do. They didn't need to be there. They weren't protecting their countries sovereign interests.

Think of Murdoch as the British military hierarchy; using, abusing, and not thinking or caring.
 
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