SSD? Anyone?

I'm perfectly happy with magnetic drives and RAID0 at the moment. 157MB/s is very impressive but I think my striped pair clocks 110MB/s or thereabouts.

Yeah, your RAID can do similar speeds when doing linear access, ie read/write a connected area on the disk one block after the other.

SSDs will do similar speeds with random accesses, like they happen in the real world. Magnetic storage fails at those.

I'm not saying it won't be quicker! I'm just saying that I won't notice it that much, and I don't mind the little 0,1 sec wait anyways

One 0.1s wait is no problem. How many I/O operations does it take to start up an application? Hundreds? Thousands? If you wait 10ms less per I/O operation then you will wait 10s less for 1000 I/O operations. I'm sure you're not THAT old yet to not notice it :lol:

:lmao: someone +rep AiR for me?
I've run out of SSD's I can give him

Done.

Give them your money. What are you going to do with money? Buy food? Nobody likes you. You don't need food. You need a SSD-drive. Then all people will love you. Everyone will be impressed. "There goes the man with the huge penis" they'll say. And everyone will want to have sex with you. Consume. Consume. Consume.

Buying an SSD may actually make more money for you. You're more efficient in your time, thus you can earn more per hour if working with a computer, or have more time to work without the computer because your computer-related bits go faster.
 
Last edited:
Yeah, your RAID can do similar speeds when doing linear access, ie read/write a connected area on the disk one block after the other. SSDs will do similar speeds with random accesses, like they happen in the real world. Magnetic storage fails at those.

I did not know that. I suppose it's logical because there's no arm to move backwards and forwards seeking.
 
Then why not go full out if it saves money on the long run.
i see a point of ssd's in a laptop and "ultra-hard-1337 gaming rig", but not a "normal" dude that fires his/hers/its pc and goes to drink a coffee (like me!).
 
I did not know that. I suppose it's logical because there's no arm to move backwards and forwards seeking.

Use some HDD benchmarking tool (I'm sure google has lots on offer) and compare linear reading speed with random reading speed. I'm sure you'll see a huge difference.

Here's my setup with Everest disk benchmark:

First the SSD, linear and then random read:

http://img.phyrefile.com/narf/2009/12/01/ssd_linear.png
http://img.phyrefile.com/narf/2009/12/01/ssd_random.png

You see, both perform similarly well. Random read is a bit less smooth, but the average is the same (188 vs 185).

Now a magnetic disk from 2009 (pulling more than your raid :lol: and it's not even a 7200rpm disk), first linear then random.

http://img.phyrefile.com/narf/2009/12/01/hdd_linear.png
http://img.phyrefile.com/narf/2009/12/01/hdd_random.png

Can't be bothered to let the linear read run all the way, would take 5 hours...
With only one process actively accessing the drive random reading still performs quite ok, but noticeably slower than the linear read (128 vs 83). Should drop a lot when doing multiple operations at once, don't have a tool to test that right now :(

Here's the most crucial bit for real-life performance, access times:

http://img.phyrefile.com/narf/2009/12/01/access.png

yellow/pink are two magnetic disks, one is new (July 2009), the other is a couple years old (has been powered on for 12392 hours, or 1.4 years, green is the SSD.


Then why not go full out if it saves money on the long run.
i see a point of ssd's in a laptop and "ultra-hard-1337 gaming rig", but not a "normal" dude that fires his/hers/its pc and goes to drink a coffee (like me!).

A gaming rig will not benefit as much, most of the performance for that can be gained from GPU/CPU/RAM speeds.
For occasional computer users there's no point, sure - it only works if you use it for multiple hours every day. Remember though, it's not just OS startup. EVERY disk I/O operation will be faster, small ones may be one hundred times as fast.
 
Last edited:
Almost bought an Intel x25 80gb during cyber monday on newegg for $214...then I was too late and they sold out :cry:

wait for the OCZ 30gb, they usually have a $30 discount on those. I bought 3 Vertex SSDs when they were on special for $130 each.
 
and then put those in raid 0 and laugh at the others
 
Oh now you SAID IT! It is mandatory that this video follow on any mentioning of raid and SSD, even if you've seen it five times already

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96dWOEa4Djs[/YOUTUBE]
 
i see a point of ssd's in a laptop and "ultra-hard-1337 gaming rig", but not a "normal" dude that fires his/hers/its pc and goes to drink a coffee (like me!).

THANK.
YOU.

Also, from what I gather, if you want speed + massive storage the way to go is a 40ish GB SSD for OS+programs and shit + 2TB HDD for porn games, music, and videos, right?
 
Also, from what I gather, if you want speed + massive storage the way to go is a 40ish GB SSD for OS+programs and shit + 2TB HDD for porn games, music, and videos, right?

If you want (in my terms) the best value for money, as in the biggest speed and the biggest storage for the least amount of money, yes.
I've got a 60G SSD for applications, a 1.5T for storage, a 250G for temporary stuff (because I had it here, wouldn't have bought it if I didn't), for example as a downloading target for torrents. That way my 1.5T disk doesn't get crapped by all the randomness and fragmentation.

Depends on your personal needs if that OS/program disk needs to be 30G or 60G - I'd say nobody really needs more than 80G as long as there is a huge magnetic disk for storage.
 
I still think I'd need more space than 60GB, my Steam directory is 22GB with just 3 games installed. Normal applications won't take up nearly so much space but I still think I'd need something bigger for OS, applications and games.
 
Yeah, I think, I'd need 80 gigs as well...
Unless the manufacturers figure something out that the performance won't degrade if the drive is nearly full...
 
Yeah, I think, I'd need 80 gigs as well...
Unless the manufacturers figure something out that the performance won't degrade if the drive is nearly full...

Taken from random google result http://www.overclockersonline.net/?page=articles&num=3041&pnum=5

empty drive:
hdtune-new.jpg


full drive:
hdtune-full.jpg


Writing drops a bit more, but most accesses are reading accesses so that shouldn't be too big of an issue. A lot less impact than with magnetic full drives of course, because it needs to bounce around more to find free space (= fragment the data).
 
If I remember right, the TRIM support in Windows 7 supposed to help with the performance degrade issue (at least to a certain degree).

Right now I am leaning on the Intel x25 80gb or the OCZ Vertex 120gb....whichever go on sale first :D
 
Right now I am leaning on the Intel x25 80gb or the OCZ Vertex 120gb....whichever go on sale first :D

For the smaller budget Kingston's SSDNow V-Series is quite cheap ($150 for 64G on newegg without special deals) and will provide all the major SSD benefits.






I also want 8*10^21 byte storage...
 
Last edited:
THANK.
YOU.

Also, from what I gather, if you want speed + massive storage the way to go is a 40ish GB SSD for OS+programs and shit + 2TB HDD for porn games, music, and videos, right?

Pretty much so, yes.

My current setup has a 30Gb OCZ SSD with 4 x 2Tb drives... that's 8.03TGb of storage space : )
 
More videos to show the superiority of a large penis
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqnL3jX3dik[/YOUTUBE]
 
Top