The F1 Technical Developments Thread

ahpadt

Forum Addict
Joined
May 7, 2006
Messages
9,892
Location
London
060520107661.jpg


06052010764.jpg


06052010765.jpg


065wri.jpg


152206.jpg


r3YG0.gif


088wri.jpg
 

Sir Stiggington

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 24, 2006
Messages
3,885
Location
Cambridge, UK
Car(s)
McLaren Mercedes MP4/23 :P
I really like that new Lotus front wing. But aren't Merc pushing it a bit too far with that snowplow front wing? I mean the thing is almost perpendicular to the airflow...
 

nicjasno

BMW Perfectionist
DONOR
Joined
Jul 15, 2007
Messages
5,892
Location
Maribor, Slovenia, Europe
Car(s)
'89 BMW E30 325iT, '95 BMW E36 318ti compact
/me is just droooling all over the place... this is WAY better than porn... no wait, this IS porn !!!!
 

Sir Stiggington

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 24, 2006
Messages
3,885
Location
Cambridge, UK
Car(s)
McLaren Mercedes MP4/23 :P
It's very difficult to see the difference to be honest. There is a clear difference in the lettering, so I'm thinking it's the angle that's the main difference. But other than the obvious lack of droop on the sides it's difficult to tell from that angle. Although it does look likethey've made the top element smaller and the bottom one bigger. We should wait for some other angles...
 

Matsu

Active Member
Joined
Apr 10, 2009
Messages
110
Location
Rovaniemi, Finland
Hmmh...my first post in a million years. Partial collection of the updates; Merc GP has that new intake system as we've seen already. Additionally, they have an increased wheelbase to improve weight distribution. They have a modified double-diffuser and revised aerodynamics. Seems that they will also be running their version of the F-duct-system.
McLaren have big changes to the front and rear wing, some other more subtle changes and they've also modified the floor at the back of the car.
Renault has a smaller update, just a new front wing and some other new aerodynamic parts.

Ferrari will be introducing their F-duct, which they seem to be calling "blown rear wing". Plus they have some other updates, mainly on the aerodynamic side. (Oh and they've deleted the barcode-paint-thingy on their engine cover, as you can see.) Ferrari and Renault are following a similar program, in which the car is supposed to get new parts every race.
Lotus are bringing a lot of updates, said to be worth a second-a-lap. They consist of a new front wing, new floor and new aerodynamics. The brake-cooling ducts at the front have been modified, the sidepods are a bit different and there might be something on the engine cover also. Mechanically, suspension and shock absobers have been improved.

And, according with the new rule, EVERY team now have their rear-view mirrors on the center of the car. The outboard ones are now banned. Sebastian Vettel was one of the worried ones because of this, saying that the mirrors on the RB were a major thing in the aerodynamics. So now Ferrari, RB, STR and others previously sporting the outboard ones have had to change their design.
 

MOTORLOON1993

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 26, 2008
Messages
829
Location
Rotherham, South Yorkshire
I pefer the Ferrari without the barcode, subliminal or not it looked stupid IMO.

Edit: + the last two pages sum up why I love formula1 it's so brilliant just admiring the way f1 cars are constantly evolving.
 
Last edited:

GaryC

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2006
Messages
4,001
Location
Adelaide
Car(s)
'90 Miata, '12 Octavia RS
Please enlighten me. How does moving the airbox on the Merc back help? All I can see is that it doesn't restrict airflow to the rear wing.
 

otispunkmeyer

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 15, 2006
Messages
4,829
Location
Loughborough UK
Car(s)
'03 Skoda Superb (farewell :(), '06 Honda Civic ES
^ reduces drag too, the bit where the airbox intake would be is now a knife edge... there'll be less drag and smoother flow around the intakes and fin
 

settler

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2008
Messages
927
Location
Poland
Car(s)
VW Corrado VR6
I'm not sure about that. Intakes are just in a different place, so they make similar drag. The biggest difference is in airflow management.
 

mclarensmps

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 28, 2006
Messages
3,600
Location
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Car(s)
'11 KIA Forte Coupe
They are in a different place, but they take up less surface area because they are lower down, and the bulge closes in a lot sooner. Also, because they are nearer the driver's head, the impact of the drag won't be as much as if they were treated as a separate entity over the driver's head (where I agree, it's about airflow management).

However, there is definitely a significant drag decrease as I see it.
 

WillDAQ

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 23, 2007
Messages
2,725
Location
Ukania
Fairly simple design iteration, new larger intakes for F ducts mean that the optimal location for the intakes have changed.

Remember however that there are geometry rule boxes that have to be applied, so although the inlets have moved they actually can't move that far.
 

settler

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 22, 2008
Messages
927
Location
Poland
Car(s)
VW Corrado VR6
They are in a different place, but they take up less surface area because they are lower down, and the bulge closes in a lot sooner. Also, because they are nearer the driver's head, the impact of the drag won't be as much as if they were treated as a separate entity over the driver's head (where I agree, it's about airflow management).

However, there is definitely a significant drag decrease as I see it.

I don't know much about aerodynamics, so I won't argue. I'm just thinking about this. The engine needs the same amount of air regardless of where the intakes are. So you cant direct air around them or make them smaller. But I think now I understand your point. Because intakes are lower there is no need for all that construction under the intake. But even than, comparing this to the previous Merc's design it doesn't look like a big difference. But again, I know shit about aerodynamics, so all this is just guessing. ;)
 
Top