The 'I don't like Tesla' Thread

Even production Teslas have serious fit and finish concerns. Panel gaps aside, this is the company that went to home depot to buy wood and zip ties to assemble their vehicles.
 
I never got why you would want something of that size, and the build quality is shocking, but the design is still cool IMO.
I'm guessing as they build more of these they'll get the quality up to a certain standard (just like with other Tesla's, the trick is to never get one of the first ones as you're basically being a free betatester for Tesla at that point)

I doubt these will fly off the shelves, unless for some diehard Tesla/Elon fanboys
 
Someone beat me to it:
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NooDle said:
but the design is still cool IMO.
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The thing is though… there’s a reason people don’t build a car like that. Pedestrian safety, for one. I still remember the Nissan GTRs airbagged hood (or something like that) to make the car less dangerous to pedestrians/cyclists… and that was a fairly normal/tame design.
Then again, with pickup truck design the way it is, nobody gives a shit about anyone else anyway… so I guess that particular argument goes straight out the window.
 
eizbaer said:
The thing is though… there’s a reason people don’t build a car like that.
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Not a car, therefore: fuck reason, logic, laws, the planet and the toddler crossing the street.
 
NooDle said:
You do realise this is for a country that sells these to anyone that wants them and classifies them as 'car'?
Because "America Fuck yeah"
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Yeah yeah see that second half of my post lol 🤣
Redliner said:
Not a car, therefore: fuck reason, logic, laws, the planet and the toddler crossing the street.
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Of course of course, it’s a „truck“. Whatever the difference is except fuck reason logic laws etc
 
It's also being compared to an F-250 and Ram 2500, which are both intended for heavy duty hauling and towing while also being parked farther from the camera. No denying American trucks are larger than pretty much anything in Europe, but we also have a very different use criteria.
 
Blind_Io said:
No denying American trucks are larger than pretty much anything in Europe, but we also have a very different use criteria.
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I doubt the majority of heavy duty haulers in the US are being used as intended, (too) many of them are just pose-mobiles like the SUVs you see here in Europe which look vaguely offroady, but absolutely can't go offroad and are generally oversized for 99% of the time they are used...
 
Eye-Q said:
I doubt the majority of heavy duty haulers in the US are being used as intended, (too) many of them are just pose-mobiles like the SUVs you see here in Europe which look vaguely offroady, but absolutely can't go offroad and are generally oversized for 99% of the time they are used...
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You might be surprised. You do see a lot of those trucks driving around without a load or trailer, but most people forking out over $100,000 for a heavy duty truck are doing it for a reason. The F-150, Ram 1500, and Silverado 1500 are the more typical "brodozer" trucks - and you can spot them a mile off. They have an impractically high lift, big flashy rims, minimal-sidewall MT tires, and an exhaust tip big enough to swallow a basketball. They are always shiny and clearly never worked.

Most the ones I see clearly do a lot of towing - it might be a work trailer or a toy hauler, but it was clearly bought to do a job.
 
Blind_Io said:
most people forking out over $100,000 for a heavy duty truck are doing it for a reason.
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I don’t get how that’s a valid reason for the car not to be an ego extension. There’s a bunch of cars north of 100k being sold for zero other reason than ego… you might be surprised… but there’s even people over here* that run WORK TRUCKS that are tough and dirty and clearly no longer street legal (wheels sticking out etc), which are used for nothing else but chauffeur the owner the 5 km to an office job and grocery shopping. 🤷‍♂️

* yes yes that won’t be f250/r2500, because luckily, those don’t get sold here and can’t be imported afaik.
 
I did say "most people" - there certainly are those who bro-dozer HD work trucks and never tow or haul, but they are the minority. The half-ton truck category sees a lot more of that. There's a lot less of that at the 3/4 ton class, and it continues to decrease as you go up into one-tons and above.
 
I have to admit to not having the slightest clue what a half, 3/4 or full ton truck are - and I honestly don’t care. I think we all agree the cybertruck looks funky, but it’s probably a pretty terrible idea all round? 🙈
 
eizbaer said:
I have to admit to not having the slightest clue what a half, 3/4 or full ton truck are - and I honestly don’t care. I think we all agree the cybertruck looks funky, but it’s probably a pretty terrible idea all round? 🙈
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The rating system for trucks is antiquated. Way back, in the day, a half ton truck could have a half of a ton in the bed. Substitute the appropriate weight for each class of pickup. This went away as overload springs came into fashion, and then became almost standard.
 
eizbaer said:
I have to admit to not having the slightest clue what a half, 3/4 or full ton truck are - and I honestly don’t care. I think we all agree the cybertruck looks funky, but it’s probably a pretty terrible idea all round? 🙈
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Today these are examples of the models in each category. Originally the weight ratings were the payload of each class.

1/4 ton truck - Tacoma, Ranger, Gladiator, Colorado, Frontier
1/2 ton truck - F-150, Ram 1500, Silverado 1500, Tundra, Titan
3/4 ton truck - F-250, Ram 2500, Silverado 2500
1 ton truck - F-350, Ram 3500, Silverado 3500
 
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