Sgt. Maj. Buzzkill
- Feb 1, 2008
- Kiel/Wherever, Germany
- '16 VW The Beetle Cabrio
I didn't say anything about NPR or PP and neither has Trump in his wall deal discussions. They're completely irrelevant here.Where is the "drop in the bucket" when it comes to projects that aren't GOP pets? They will fight tooth and nail to defund NPR and Planned Parenthood (which aren't even direct payments, but payments for services via Medicaid and Title IX), which truly is a drop in the bucket. But this $5 Billion dollar down-payment on a wall that even border security experts agree is a waste is somehow okay? That $5 Billion is not the final price tag - the government hasn't even paid for the studies of what the project would end up costing, there's no plans for it, no bidding has been done for the total cost, no contract awarded, hell, the environmental impact study alone will probably be tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars.
So how can you say that the cost of the wall is a "drop in the bucket" when you don't even know what the cost is? This has been brought up before and you never answer the question; so I put it to you now: What is the final cost of the wall going to be and where are you getting that number?
It's 1 773rd of the total budget. Do the math.You're off by an order of magnitude.
The GOP has a stick up their ass about these small social programs, like Planned Parenthood, that deliver measurable cost-effective outcomes - and the argument is always the same "responsible fiscal policy". Where is the "responsible fiscal policy" now? They apparently have no problem spending a hundred times that amount on the beginning of a boondogle that experts agree will be a legal quagmire of property law and still not solve the problem it's trying to address. What happened to the party line of "reduce spending"? They will fight tooth and nail over a hundredth of a penny when it comes to Planned Parenthood because of "fiscal responsibility" but are perfectly fine with $5.7 Billion dollars that won't even cover the wall project or even come close.I didn't say anything about NPR or PP and neither has Trump in his wall deal discussions. They're completely irrelevant here.
You've got a stick up your ass about the cost and we've already discussed this - Trump's request is in line with Schumer asked for back in '13. I'm not going to get into a stupid argument over the exact costs here - it's a dumb argument. If you really think that $5.7b out of a $4.4t budget isn't enough, let's make it $10b. Or $20b. Idfk, it's still a tiny percentage.
You must be immune to the irony, we can't "do the math" because the cost is currently unknown. You are just making shit up, point to a final price tag and then we can talk about doing the math, until then, you are only talking about earnest money, which is not the end cost.It's 1 773rd of the total budget. Do the math.
In Nogales, AZ, a town that already has a wall on the Mexican and American border, the troops have put up so much concertina wire that the town is considering suing the government to take it down, according to the Washington Post.
This week, Nogales’ city council passed a resolution opposing the razor wire and demanding it be removed. It includes a threat to sue the government if the wire is not removed.
https://splinternews.com/troops-on-the-border-are-apparently-keeping-america-saf-1832448777They have installed 80 miles of concertina wire, according to William Speaks, a Defense Department spokesman. The deployment has so far cost $132 million, but that number may rise to $1 billion by the end of the year.
Let's see, minimizing: "Nostradamus" and eyeroll emoji.Ok there Nostradamus Predictably you've got NOTHING to say about my actual post so you go for the personal attack instead. This isn't complicated - granny Warren has lied her entire life about her race in order to get ahead. But I get it, Trump's schedule that you don't understand now clearly more important
God damn, I have to give you credit, I didn't think it was possible for a human being to be this thick. Let me break it down Barney Style for you.I'm not deflecting - there's just nothing else to add when you keep ignoring facts that support physical barriers being effective; the fact that leading Dems have supported physical barriers; the fact that $5.7b is not something I "pulled out of my ass" but what POTUS is seeking and is in line with what leading Dems have sought; etc. Orange man is bad for you and no amount of facts or logic will change that.
So yes, I'm changing the topic and all you've managed to get out of this is that "being a grandparent is bad". Stop being so butthurt and focus on the actual issues, okay little buddy? Or is this post somehow going to chafe your delicate cheeks too?
I...don't get it actually. I also think that it continues a dangerous line of "he said it in a way we (vague subgroup of people which may or may not be related to the offended group) feel is offensive so now it is forever and ever and all time". But that's okay. Not like I running around calling people Pocahontas.It was racist when trump used "Pocahontas" as a slur; evolving that and continuing to use it as a slur is still racist. There's no "microaggression" bullshit here, that use was intentionally derogatory.
It's not racist, no matter how butt-hurt you are over it.It was racist when trump used "Pocahontas" as a slur; evolving that and continuing to use it as a slur is still racist. There's no "microaggression" bullshit here, that use was intentionally derogatory.
There has been no implication that whites are superior to native Americans. In fact, Warren isn't even "of a different race", since she is fucking white. Calling her Pocahontas or Fauxcohontas isn't racist, it's just making fun of a lying scumbag politician - it is not at all directed at native Americans or meant to demean or disrespect them. Unless, of course, a liberal gets triggered and then everything is racist.prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.