The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

[prizrak]

So, are you saying it's okay to call her racist names or not?

Is it racist to call someone a racial slur if they don't belong to that race?

 

[CraigB]

Being born and raised in Oklahoma there's a lot of misinformation in family lineage there. Nearly every family believes they are or are partially native American.

My own family's heritage has been difficult to pin down due to poor record keeping or destroyed/missing records.

I've also heard that at some points in the state's history it would be advantageous to lie to census takers and claim to be white rather than Native American. Causing problems for their future family.

 

[narf]

It's 1 773rd of the total budget. Do the math.

If it's 1 1000th of the budget then it's 0.1%, not 0.01%. Like I said, you're off by an order of magnitude.

 

[Blind_Io]

It's not racist, no matter how butt-hurt you are over it.

Google "racism definition" and you get this:

There has been no implication that whites are superior to native Americans. In fact, Warren isn't even "of a different race", since she is fucking white. Calling her Pocahontas or Fauxcohontas isn't racist, it's just making fun of a lying scumbag politician - it is not at all directed at native Americans or meant to demean or disrespect them. Unless, of course, a liberal gets triggered and then everything is racist.

Says the guy who is actively defending and supporting the worst liar in the history of American politics.

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/01/politics/donald-trump-3000/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/12/30/year-unprecedented-deception-trump-averaged-false-claims-day/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.7feea831cb6d

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/see-the-proof-that-trump-is-now-lying-more-than-any-president-ever-1362683459818

But I guess when your guy lies, it's okay.

 

[LeVeL]

What you're doing is the equivalent of screaming "oh yeah? Well your nose is too big!" because you don't have a real argument. Does Trump's lying make it ok for Warren to lie? Do Trump's action make it ok for Warren to pretend to be something she's not in order to get ahead in life?

 

[Blind_Io]

A physical feature is not a behavior, dickweed. Someone is responsible for what they say and do, they can't control the shape of the nose they were born with.

This is what you do, you poke, you insult, you deflect, deny, and pull this whataboutist bullshit and when you are called out on it you try to turn it around. I'm not deflecting from Warren, Warren isn't the topic. We were talking about Trump, you came in with a non-sequitur that has nothing to do with the topic at hand; now that we are getting back on topic you are accusing others of deflecting. If you want to start a thread or use the policial Random Thoughts to talk about Warren, go for it. I'm not condoning lying or deception by anyone; I believe in holding people accountable, something you seem to be allergic to when it comes to your beloved Cheetolini.

It's the same stunt the Alt-Right pulls. Push and push and push until someone pushes back then cry about how the left isn't tolerant of being pushed around. I've watched you do it in here again and again with your little jabs and insults, calling names, making fun of screen names and then patting yourself on the back for being so fucking clever.

Grow up and stop it with this grade-school bullshit. What the hell happened to you? Before Trump came on the scene you never pulled this type of shit, we could disagree but you never called people names, mocked their screen names, or tried this whataboutism nonsense. You've become Trump and are emulating every odious, disgusting, and uncivil behavior he models. Seriously, stop being such a fucking sycophant, you have your head so far up Trump's ass that the lump in his throat is your nose.

 

[LeVeL]

If you recall, I didn't like Trump for a long time but I am able to give credit where it's due and I think he's done a great job. We used to be able to disagree before you became a raging anti-Trumper for no apparent reason. Orange man is bad in your eyes no matter what so these arguments end up being incredibly useless. Perfect example is Schumer's support for a barrier - you went to fantastic lengths to make Schumer's barrier sound drastically different from Trump's when in reality they're not that different at all but you just couldn't admit it.

Anyways, we've been talking about the damn wall for pages and pages now and we'll never agree - forgive me for trying to move the conversation on to something else. If you want to keep going on and on about the wall in your cozy echo chamber, have at it (of course now you're going to accuse me of running away from the conversation - there's no winning here).

 

[Punisher Bass]

Blind_Io, like I've said at least twice in this thread, just fucking ignore him. Don't even bother giving him the time of day. Life is too short to waste any of it on people who act like that, he's a troll, he gets off on goading people. Trust me, I work as a community manager for a major MMA website, I deal with people like this every god damn day.

Getting you and others riled up is his only goal. He will spout whatever bullshit he has to if it means getting a reaction. It's why he uses language such as "inherent violence on the left" "trump derangement syndrome/TDS" and "a liberal gets triggered". Even if you shut him down with facts, he'll just float away and come back with his nose stuck in the air to drop a few more baiting comments, as you've already seen numerous times over the years. It's what he does, stop playing his game.

 

[GRtak]

If it's 1 1000th of the budget then it's 0.1%, not 0.01%. Like I said, you're off by an order of magnitude.

I hate to go all Narf on you, but... .1 is a tenth, .01 is a hundredth, and .001 is a thousandth.

 

[LeVeL]

No, narf is right.

A tenth would be 10%
A hundredth would be 1%
A thousandth is 0.1%

 

[GRtak]

You missed the joke. You are correct, but so am I.

 

[Blind_Io]

Since it's tax season, let's check in on that new tax law that's going to put so much money in my pocket.

https://thinkprogress.org/reeling-from-the-shutdown-and-trumps-tax-law-americans-see-8-4-drop-in-average-tax-refunds-ed030fe859fd/

Woops.

 

[GRtak]

Stop pointing out that what we were promised is not what we are getting.

 

[LeVeL]

a) That doesn't really address how the lower refund amounts compare to paycheck savings. For example, the tax cuts save me ~$100/mo iirc so if my refund is $200 less than last year, I still come out ahead. Idk, maybe it's a net negative for most people but that wasn't addressed at all.

b) A refund is not a good thing. It simply means that you gave the government an interest-free loan. You're better off reducing your deductions and aiming for no refund and nothing owed.

 

[avanti]

b) A refund is not a good thing. It simply means that you gave the government an interest-free loan. You're better off reducing your deductions and aiming for no refund and nothing owed.

Exactly, and it has nothing to do with tax rates. Better to get a refund than back taxes, but ideally you should aim for 0

 

[prizrak]

Since it's tax season, let's check in on that new tax law that's going to put so much money in my pocket.

https://thinkprogress.org/reeling-from-the-shutdown-and-trumps-tax-law-americans-see-8-4-drop-in-average-tax-refunds-ed030fe859fd/

Woops.

As Lev rightly pointed out, this doesn’t mean a whole lot. If you pay less taxes you get less refund

 

[LeVeL]

I was honest with you guys about how the tax cuts affected my paycheck and I'll be honest about my refund when I get it. I honestly don't know how it will be affected but in the past I've gotten pretty significant refunds (again, not a good thing).

 

[Blind_Io]

Never the less Trump's base seems pissed about it.

 

[prizrak]

I was honest with you guys about how the tax cuts affected my paycheck and I'll be honest about my refund when I get it. I honestly don't know how it will be affected but in the past I've gotten pretty significant refunds (again, not a good thing).

In my case my refund was about 10% less but the increase in my paycheck offset the difference by a 100% (over the year). It’s actually even more when factoring in that my wife makes similar money so she got a similar increase in take home pay.

One caveat is that child care deductions are up under Trumps plan so being a father of two has a positive effect overall.

 

[LeVeL]

Never the less Trump's base seems pissed about it.

Pissed about what? Again, are they factoring in the decrease in taxes throughout the year? If you pay less taxes of course your refund will be less, seems pretty obvious, so the key here is to compare tax savings over the whole year to the decrease in refund. I just don't understand how this tax break can be a net negative mathematically but I'll let your know once I file.