The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

[prizrak]

In what way is whataboutism helping / relevant?

Well lets see one is completely dismissed the other is treated as a large nail in an impeachment coffin. I want some consistency.

 

[IceBone]

Well, you already have hypocrisy.

 

[prizrak]

Well, you already have hypocrisy.

Elaborate

The plot thickens.
Here is the link to the article if you wanna read vs watch - https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

 

[GRtak]

As shady as having a private email server for classified emails?

Yes, but not nearly as bad as a presidential candidate publicly calling for Russia to hack that server.

So are you going to bring up Benghazi next? Won't be a greatest hits ramble without it.

 

[prizrak]

Yes, but not nearly as bad as a presidential candidate publicly calling for Russia to hack that server.

So are you going to bring up Benghazi next? Won't be a greatest hits ramble without it.

There has not been a Benghazi like moment for Trump yet so no, I won’t.

Like I said before I will wait once inquiry is over (probably in two years if Mueller is anything to go by) and then see what they uncover.

I do think that Trump is the most scrutinized POTUS we ever had, not that it’s a bad thing I just wish that media and co would apply that same level of scrutiny to the rest of the government both state and federal.

 

[GRtak]

Well, I will remind you that Trump's little girl also used a private server for government use and all you guys dismissed it.

Did you at least read the whistleblower complaint?

 

[prizrak]

Well, I will remind you that Trump's little girl also used a private server for government use and all you guys dismissed it.

I missed that one. I will say that nepotism under Trump bothers the crap out of me.

Did you at least read the whistleblower complaint?

No, like I said waiting to see what the inquiry turns up, anyone can claim anything really.

 

[jack_christie]

Elaborate

The plot thickens.
Here is the link to the article if you wanna read vs watch - https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story

^Just more unhinged conspiracy theories.

Napolitano upset the wacko's at Fox News

Napolitano: Trump's brazen acts of corruption

Sep 25, 2019

Better Call Paul

Scratch the Surface of the Giuliani Conspiracy Theories And You Find the Frail, Long Hand of Paul Manafort

For years we’ve been discussing the pernicious and comical impact of John Solomon on the rickety body of establishment Washington journalism.

As a longtime reporter for the AP, he was notorious for being the softest touch for GOP operatives looking to unload opposition research no other journalists would take. But over the last decade, and particularly in his latest incarnation at The Hill, it’s all taken a more sinister turn

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime/better-call-paul-2

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/top-takeaways-from-the-trump-ukraine-whistleblower-complaint

How a conservative columnist helped push a flawed Ukraine narrative

In a complaint filed by an anonymous whistleblower, Solomon’s stories were cited as part of a narrative about the alleged effort by Trump and his allies to pressure Ukraine’s government into digging up dirt on Trump’s Democratic rivals, including Clinton and Joe Biden, to enhance his prospects for reelection next year.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...54026e-dee7-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html

 

[prizrak]

^Just more unhinged conspiracy theories.

Confirmation bias much?

 

[GRtak]

I missed that one. I will say that nepotism under Trump bothers the crap out of me.

It is hard to remember all the shit this administration does, or did.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/19/iva...ate-email-to-discuss-government-business.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...15d1e0-e7a1-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/11/but-her-emails/576298/

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/02/jared-kushner-email-account-white-house-243389

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...rivate-email-account-says-not-clinton-n941106

No, like I said waiting to see what the inquiry turns up, anyone can claim anything really.

So far, the complaint has shown more than a little accuracy.

 

[jack_christie]

So far, the complaint has shown more than a little accuracy.

The Putin and Saudi transcripts ?

Trump told Russian officials in 2017 he wasn’t concerned about Moscow’s interference in U.S. election

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...0a8bc8-e159-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

 

[jack_christie]

Confirmation bias much?

For over two years Russia has been spins that the Ukraine was to blame, why do so much of the Alt Right media, politicans and supporters continue to amplify these conspiracy theories and Trump lies when they know they are wrong.

 

[prizrak]

For over two years Russia has been spins that the Ukraine was to blame, why do so much of the Alt Right media, politicans and supporters continue to amplify these conspiracy theories and Trump lies when they know they are wrong.

Que? To blame for what? I was only talking/posting about the situation with Biden’s son and the Ukrainian prosecutor’s firing. It seems it’s not black and white there.

EDIT: A good summary + analysis here

 

[GRtak]

Trump is looking a bit desperate. This is from the official White House YT account about 30 minutes ago.

 

[calvinhobbes]

That Simpsons episode is not getting any less eerie.

 

[narf]

That Simpsons episode is not getting any less eerie.

Fake News.

at 1:35 is the initial Trump picture - note the lack of Lisa.

The newspaper headline is from the 2007 movie, and is not related to climate change but rather water pollution.

 

[calvinhobbes]

Fake News.

? You know, it wouldn’t even surprise me anymore if someone used that term in earnest in this context.

 

[narf]

? You know, it wouldn’t even surprise me anymore if someone used that term in earnest in this context.

I just did

 

[jack_christie]

Robert DeNiro on Brian Stelter CNN

 

[prizrak]

A slightly different take from another lawyer (Canadian this time)