The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

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Why do people believe this idiot???
I think most of the reason is because of the attached implications of a denying.

The political climate in the US is extremely polarized and partisan and divided in battling factions. In a bad way; you have to either accept all of it , or take none of it. There is no middle ground to accept something and refuse something else. There is no "I like this part but not this other".

It's like a religion and its dogmas. Either you accept all of it or none of it. And you'll get shun if you take the "bad" choice. The social and internal pressure is enormous.

When you are thrown out, you can't identify there anymore. it's your identity which crumbles and has to be built up again, while the only other possibility is the only other political (and social) group, most of which you probably already dislike. It's a problem of psychological identification.

For many, to say "Trump is lying", or even the more correct "Trump is a complete fool" questions the roots of those people's beliefs and have them ask "Am I a conservative/republican anymore? Was my whole political life until this a joke?" If I abandon Trump, does it mean I am a Hillary or Bernie supporter? A leftist?

The answer to the second question is easier, for practival as well as for identity reasons, so people will answer that ("no, of course, I don't support Hillary/Bernie; I am not a leftist") and then they answer the first question. Better said, they are reassured on the first one. Even if they don't know exactly what happened, they will say: "I am not really thinking Trump is an idiot, I must have misinterpreted his words because of the fake news of the left. There is no other way".

Next thing you know they are trying to justify Trump's absurdities, convinced in their core that if they don't manage to do it, that's because they are not so smart and educated, they are honest people who don't know how to speak well. And they'll think you are trying to deceive or con them if you make questions they can't answer.

They simply trust their political religion more than they trust you.

BTW, the same may happen or happens on the other side, simply in different times or ways.

BTW II: the populist way is exactly that: easy answer, identity, factions, until disagreeing means to be cast away. It happens everywhere, and it's visible.
 

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Mueller investigators said Roger Stone orchestrated hundreds of fake Facebook accounts in political influence scheme

The warrants released Tuesday highlighted just how extensively Stone discussed the WikiLeaks drops in 2016. The warrants also noted that, in their searches, "Stone in fact communicated via private direct messaging with WikiLeaks during the Campaign" despite him claiming publicly he had not.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/28/politics/doj-roger-stone-warrants-lawsuit/index.html


Senate Intel Releases New Report on Intel Community Assessment of Russian Interference

The Committee found no reason to dispute the Intelligence Community’s conclusions

The ICA correctly found the Russians interfered in our 2016 election to hurt Secretary Clinton and help the candidacy of Donald Trump.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov...tel-community-assessment-russian-interference


Trump uses DPA to keep meat plants open and not to enforce health and safety
 
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I know, I know, I leave and I come back, I tell myself I won't engage in this dumpster fire...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...vied-the-US-Now-for-the-first-time-we-pity-it

This guy's right and this presidency has never made me hate this country more. It's not just Trump, this shit has been happening before but it's only gotten worse. As O'Toole says, it's always been there but it's been kept in check for the most part and now? Everyone involved just wants to cling onto whatever it is they are being given now and its disgusting. "We have checks and balances, and if it ever got bad enough, people in power will make sure the president doesn't cause chaos." Really? Bull fucking shit. Once you get everyone to basically act like they're in a frat house, you get this shit. The results we're seeing are of years of careful defending of education and the fact that education is not funded the same way all over is frustrating. Small wonder we have such dipshits in so many places where the median income is low or the taxes are low, that goes into another discussion as well. Where does a lot of the money go? I don't know whatever happened to accountability?

I'm so fucking pissed off at how people vote in morons and then say "See, the government cannot be trust with anything, they always screw it up!" Yeah, no kidding, you voted the incompetent guy in. I've worked with a lot of trump supporters because for whatever reason, when you work with your hands, it means you support morons even though you have a boss who knows nothing about his job and constantly screws things up making your life frustrating. You hate it in your job, yet you vote to have the same type of person lead the country you live? Fuck this country and all the morons who think the current regime is doing a great job. You're unintelligent and want to control people so that we all think and do the same things as you do. Guess what? That will never happen and the fact that you're trying so hard and then play victim when it goes the other way like with the stay at home orders means you're no better than Trump. You don't care about anyone but yourself and if you actually did, you'd stay the fuck home and not riot because you can't handle having longer hair. "Let me control you, but don't control me." Go jump in front a train.
 

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I know, I know, I leave and I come back, I tell myself I won't engage in this dumpster fire...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...vied-the-US-Now-for-the-first-time-we-pity-it

This guy's right and this presidency has never made me hate this country more. It's not just Trump, this shit has been happening before but it's only gotten worse. As O'Toole says, it's always been there but it's been kept in check for the most part and now? Everyone involved just wants to cling onto whatever it is they are being given now and its disgusting. "We have checks and balances, and if it ever got bad enough, people in power will make sure the president doesn't cause chaos." Really? Bull fucking shit. Once you get everyone to basically act like they're in a frat house, you get this shit. The results we're seeing are of years of careful defending of education and the fact that education is not funded the same way all over is frustrating. Small wonder we have such dipshits in so many places where the median income is low or the taxes are low, that goes into another discussion as well. Where does a lot of the money go? I don't know whatever happened to accountability?

I'm so fucking pissed off at how people vote in morons and then say "See, the government cannot be trust with anything, they always screw it up!" Yeah, no kidding, you voted the incompetent guy in. I've worked with a lot of trump supporters because for whatever reason, when you work with your hands, it means you support morons even though you have a boss who knows nothing about his job and constantly screws things up making your life frustrating. You hate it in your job, yet you vote to have the same type of person lead the country you live? Fuck this country and all the morons who think the current regime is doing a great job. You're unintelligent and want to control people so that we all think and do the same things as you do. Guess what? That will never happen and the fact that you're trying so hard and then play victim when it goes the other way like with the stay at home orders means you're no better than Trump. You don't care about anyone but yourself and if you actually did, you'd stay the fuck home and not riot because you can't handle having longer hair. "Let me control you, but don't control me." Go jump in front a train.
We don't have a competent choice in the upcoming election. Biden isn't as bad as Trump, but he's still a self-absorbed, plagiarizing, pussy grabbing, dishonest, low life who will lie on camera about things that are easy to vet, like his college education. Joe "I grew up in poverty" (he didn't), "have three undergraduate degrees" (he has one), "and graduated in the top half of my class" (he graduated in the bottom half of his class, close to the very bottom, in fact) Biden, our next president.

 
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Your post are waste why dont you just openly support Trump
 

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Your post are waste why dont you just openly support Trump
You need to take a more objective view of things if you think that life is that black and white. I know this will blow your mind, but I am of the opinion that neither Trump nor Biden should be president.

Also, I was replying to another user.
 

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^ this is in the wrong thread

The title of this thread is: The Trump Presidency

The subject of his post was Trump

The subject of your post was private citizen Joe Biden.

It was the wrong thread

Pretty black and white
 

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  • 1999 - National Stockpile was created to respond to a pandemic or other national medical emergency
  • 2011 - Obama's Administration requested $655 Million for the national stockpile to replenish reserves of N95 masks depleted after H1N1. The GOP controlled congress cut the budget by 10% and further cut CDC funding (the managing agency of the national stockpile at the time)
  • 2013 - The GOP controlled congress further cut the national stockpile to it's lowest budget since 2009
  • May 2018 - Trump disbands US Pandemic Response Team.
  • 2018 - Trump cuts funding to CDC, forcing the agency to cease providing aid to other nations to fight infections disease threats - including China
  • July 2019 - Trump fires CDC epidemiologist embedded with China's disease control agency.
  • Nov 2019 - US intelligence officials warn of new virus spreading in China
  • Jan 8 - First CDC warning on Novel Coronavirus (COVID-19)
  • Jan 9 - Trump campaign rally
  • Jan 14 - Trump campaign rally
  • Jan 16 - House sends impeachment articles to Senate
  • Jan 18 - Trump golfs
  • Jan 19 - Trump golfs
  • Jan 20 - first case of COVID-19 in the US, Washington State.
  • Jan 22 - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
  • Jan 28 - Trump campaign rally
  • Jan 30 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 1 - Trump golfs
  • Feb 2 - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
  • Feb 5 - Senate votes to acquit. Then takes a five-day weekend.
  • Feb 10 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 12 - Dow Jones closes at an all time high of 29,551.42
  • Feb 15 - Trump golfs
  • Feb 19 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 20 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 21 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 24 - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!” Trump requests $2.5 Billion to address the outbreak.
  • Feb 25 - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
  • Feb 25 - “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
  • Feb 26 - “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
  • Feb 26 - “We're going very substantially down, not up.” Also "This is a flu. This is like a flu"; "Now, you treat this like a flu"; "It's a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."
  • Feb 27 - “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
  • Feb 28 - “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
  • Feb 28 - Trump campaign rally
  • Feb 29 - First COVID-19 death in US
  • Mar 2 - “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
  • Mar 2 - “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
  • Mar 4 - “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
  • Mar 5 - “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
  • Mar 5 - “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
  • Mar 6 - “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
  • Mar 6 - “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
  • Mar 6 - “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
  • Mar 6 - “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
  • Mar 7 - Trump golfs, whines about not letting sick Americans on the cruise ship return home because they "mess up his numbers" before sending them home on commercial flights against CDC advice
  • Mar 8 - Trump golfs
  • Mar 8 - “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on Corona Virus.”
  • Mar 9 - “This blindsided the world.”
  • Mar 13 - [Declared state of emergency]
  • Mar 14 - Young Asian-American family of 4 stabbed in TX Sam's Club by man who thinks they're responsible for COVID.
  • Mid March - Federal agencies finally start placing bulk orders for N95 masks and other necessary equipment, national stockpile nearly depleated
  • Mar 15 - 3,613 COVID-19 cases, 69 deaths
  • Mar 17 - “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
  • April 23 - Trump suggests injecting bleach to cure corona "And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me."
  • April 27 - Over 1,000,000 American Cases
  • April 28 - American Covid-19 casualty count surpasses the 58,220 American casualties of the Vietnam War, Trump uses Defense Production Act powers to keep meat packing plants running - still hasn't done so for ventilators or PPE.
 
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