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I think it's safe to say that pretty much 100% of people shot by law officers, regardless of race, are idiots or arseholes.

If you live in America you should be in absolutely no doubt that a police officer will be armed and has the authority to shoot you if you give them any reason whatsoever, so anyone doing anything other than being totally compliant with the instructions of a cop deserves what they get.

Sure there are cases where cops over-react but since we all know that happens your best bet to avoid death or injury is to be really polite and do exactly what you're told.
 

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The small amount of communications i have had with officers of different towns, they all have a degree of pride and are on some sort of power trip. Stuff like this is why so many people hate police officers in this country.

Coupled with the fact that departments are getting more discrete. Hell, the fucking park district police in my parents town have F150's that are all black. Only way you'd know it's a LEO is by paying attention to the flat and glossy differences on the side. All they're putting on are flat finished clear stickers.

Also, fuck you carpentersville police as they're doing the same thing with their regular police vehicles.
 

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I think it's safe to say that pretty much 100% of people shot by law officers, regardless of race, are idiots or arseholes.

If you live in America you should be in absolutely no doubt that a police officer will be armed and has the authority to shoot you if you give them any reason whatsoever, so anyone doing anything other than being totally compliant with the instructions of a cop deserves what they get.

Sure there are cases where cops over-react but since we all know that happens your best bet to avoid death or injury is to be really polite and do exactly what you're told.
Unfortunately it is not that easy for a black person. Some have been killed even when being polite and compliant.

The problem isn't the people, it's the police. Their training is completely flawed and this point becomes painfully obvious when you compare police officers that are military veterans vs. officers that were power-tripping hall monitors in high school:

Military-Trained Police May Be Less Hasty To Shoot, But That Got This Vet Fired
 

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Unfortunately it is not that easy for a black person. Some have been killed even when being polite and compliant.

The problem isn't the people, it's the police. Their training is completely flawed and this point becomes painfully obvious when you compare police officers that are military veterans vs. officers that were power-tripping hall monitors in high school:

Military-Trained Police May Be Less Hasty To Shoot, But That Got This Vet Fired
Bigger problem is that PDs don't generally try the community based policing approach because it doesn't look as good as number of arrests in the news. Therefore neither the communities they serve, nor the officers themselves think of each other as neighbors. So of course the cops are quick to pull that trigger and cooperation with the "pigs" is looked down upon.
 

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Bigger problem is that PDs don't generally try the community based policing approach because it doesn't look as good as number of arrests in the news. Therefore neither the communities they serve, nor the officers themselves think of each other as neighbors. So of course the cops are quick to pull that trigger and cooperation with the "pigs" is looked down upon.
Oh I'm well aware, I watched all 5 seasons of The Wire TWICE. ;)

In all seriousness though, I feel they do a good job of driving that point home in the show.
 

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Who are those super law abiding other 10% that only get arrested 3%? :D

Also, I remember seeing news around the time Obama was first elected that non-white population has gone past 50% in the US. Fake news?
 
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According to the official paper linked in the wikipedia article about race and ethnicity in the US in 2000 there was 69.1% "white" population (third row, rightmost column) and 12.1% "black" population while 11.8% identified as "hispanic/latino" (second row, column "% of US").

But that's pretty academic since almost every statistic is skewed in one way or another, not even necessarily on purpose: how "race/ethnicity" is counted can't be defined 100% exact so every statistic will have some inaccuracy in that respect. Even if both percentages are 5% off towards each other "blacks" (just to use that term which is in that statistic) are still more likely to get arrested.
 

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Yet another Cabinet member using the jets when they should not.


Zinke's travel continues to raise ethical questions


Washington (CNN)Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has mixed official business with political activities and visits home, raising questions about the appropriateness of the trips and whether any ethics rules have been violated.
Zinke's travel is under investigation by both the Office of Special Counsel and the Interior Department's inspector general.
Travel by Cabinet officials has been under the microscope since then-Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price was found to take private flights costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and resigned. But it's not just the cost of private travel that has ethics officials looking at Zinke's schedule.
Just weeks after officially becoming interior secretary, Zinke traveled on March 30 to the US Virgin Islands for official business. He attended a series of meetings with local government officials and veterans as well as a Republican party fundraiser that cost between $75 to $5,000 to gain access.

In May, Zinke tacked on a political event to a multi-day work trip in Alaska. On May 31, after days of meeting with business leaders, government officials, veterans and native groups, Zinke attended a campaign reception for Republican Rep. Don Young of Alaska. Young's campaign spokesman, Matt Shuckerow, said Zinke was there for 15 to 20 minutes and he gave brief remarks.


"Everything associated with Congressman Young's event was done by the book," Shuckerow said. "Not only did the campaign seek out the guidance of the Interior Department's ethics personnel prior to the event, it took concerted efforts to follow their strict guidance."
Shuckerow also told CNN Zinke's attendance was not confirmed in advance or advertised to guests on invitations or other formal communications and, at the event, the secretary was not referred to by his title at his request. Shuckerow added, "There were no costs associated with entrance or attendance by guests." It is unclear if there were any other costs associated with getting Zinke to the event and who paid for it.
CNN has asked the Interior Department whether portions of the trip that involved political activities were allocated and subsidized by an entity other than the federal government. The agency has not responded.
Federal law does not ban political activity but it does limit certain political activities by federal employees, which is meant to ensure that programs are administered in a nonpartisan fashion and protect employees from political coercion in the workplace, according to the Office of Special Counsel's website.
Those trips are in addition to a widely reported trip to Las Vegas, where Zinke met with the Vegas Golden Knights hockey team, owned by billionaire businessman Bill Foley, whom Zinke called "a major donor" when he was running for Congress in 2014.
It remains unclear whether any laws were broken, but ethics watchdog groups say Zinke's official travel mixed with political activity are at the very least bad optics.
"To be a secretary of a department you would think the initial focus in the first year in office would be getting the department organized and initiatives taken care of," said Virginia Canter, the executive branch ethics counsel for Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. "What's a bit unusual here is so quickly after getting into office Zinke is quickly engaged in political activity. It is a distraction."
In a joint statement, Melinda Loftin, director of the department's ethics office, and Edward Keable, deputy solicitor, write, "The Scheduling Office meets regularly with the Departmental Ethics Office and the Division of General Law to ensure that all travel is thoroughly reviewed and approved in advance and that it is fully compliant with all applicable laws, rules, and regulations."
Ethics experts say Zinke can engage in certain political activities if his title as secretary is not used and he does not use any government resources. Federal employees cannot fundraise but they can speak at fundraisers. There are no allegations that Zinke either used his title or raised funds
But the question ethics watchdogs are raising is whether it's a little too coincidental that his official duties are coinciding with his political activities.
"Is he using the official travel to subsidize his political activity?" asked Canter. "You have to follow a very specific formula to make sure if you're on official business the money is allocated in accordance with the regulations."
House Democrats who sit on the committee that oversees the Interior Department wrote a letter to the inspector general also raising concerns about Zinke's mix of political activities and official business.


Watchdogs question trips home
Ethics watchdogs question whether official business was scheduled in a way that would allow Zinke to frequently visit his home in Montana.
Records show of six trips to Zinke's home state at least three times included time at his house from March to August.
An Interior Department official calls such allegations "ridiculous," noting the state is full of department "lands, offices, and assets."
On March 9, Zinke took a 4:08 pm flight from Washington to an airport about 23 minutes from his Montana home, according to his Interior Department schedule. Once arriving in his home state, he spent the night at home. The next day he spent four hours at Glacier National Park which included meetings with park staff. His schedule says by 1:00 pm he was en route to return home where he spent the rest of the day. He left on the March 11 to make another stop in another part of Montana and then stayed overnight in Missoula.
On May 12, Zinke returned to Montana. Zinke's schedule says he had meetings with tribal leaders and energy producers and a horseback tour of a mine with Vice President Mike Pence on May 12. Later that evening, Zinke attended a rally for congressional candidate Greg Gianforte who was running for the seat Zinke left to lead the Interior Department. A picture tweeted from Zinke's official twitter account shows him with Pence and Gianforte with the caption "rallying the grassroots."
The next day Saturday, May 13, Zinke took a personal day, spending the night at his home in Whitefish. His schedule indicates he used a rental car that he paid for himself for the personal travel.
On the morning of June 27, Zinke was again in Whitefish where he gave a speech to the Western Governors' Association, a bipartisan group. That afternoon he visited the nearby Glacier National Park for a photo shoot with GQ magazine and an interview with Outside magazine, and later attended what his schedule notes was a "Wildlife Encounter Discussion." That evening Zinke would spend the night and next morning at his home in Whitefish, according to his schedule.
 

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Donald Trump to become first president to speak at anti-LGBT hate group's annual summit

Donald Trump is to address the annual conference of an anti-LGBT group which has been classified as a hate group.

The US president will become the first sitting president to address social conservative activists and elected officials at the Value Voters Summit in Washington DC on Friday.

President Trump has addressed the event which is hosted by the Family Research Council three times in total and did so last year as the Republican presidential candidate.

The Family Research Council opposes and actively lobbies against equal rights for LGBT persons. The conservative Christian group campaigns against same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, LGBT adoption, abortion, embryonic stell-cell research, pornography and divorce...
But let's not forget:

Get your head out of CNN's ass.

He supported prosecuting hate crimes against gays.
Last year he said that gay marriage is a reality after the SCOTUS ruling.
This year he said that sexual orientation is not acceptable grounds to fire an employee.

And very recently he became the first ever candidate to do this:

 

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If you believe Trump is pro-LGBT, you have been duped.

If you still believe Trump will do anything because he believes in it, you have been duped.

As I said before the elections in November, Trump will do -anything- if this will appear in his mind to be helpful to get what he wants. He doesn't "believe" in things, he just wants power and rewards for himself.

In this case, waving a pro-lgbt flag was what he perceived would have brought him more votes, so he did it. And he was right, as many people fell for it and thought better of him and maybe voted him also because of this action. Now he perceives that speaking at the Family Research Council will bring him favour and support, so he will.

What he really believes has no part in it; given the man, he probably doesn't have a real position on certain issues, only what his ego and his self-centred mind tell him. All in all, we can assume that he doesn't hate anyone, unless they threaten to be a nuisance for him, but probably he doesn't like people who are different from him, as being different from him means valueing different values and things than he does, so it means giving less importance to what he strives to achieve in order to feel great.

That's not overthinking, that's just the most simple characteristics of a person completely absorbed in his own ego, a standard narcissus.

Do you still believe he may want something that might not bring him fame, money, success, love? You live outside of reality.
 

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Donald Trump to become first president to speak at anti-LGBT hate group's annual summit
[...]The conservative Christian group campaigns against same-sex marriage, same-sex civil unions, LGBT adoption, abortion, embryonic stell-cell research, pornography and divorce..
Did he somehow force them to get to speak at their thingy? Why would they even want him to speak there ... he clearly does not represent their values.

[...] This "news" is another non-story.
I disagree. But the picture would be clearer after we hear what he has to say there. If he tells them publically that he disagrees with them, this is a whole different story then when he goes there and tells them what great people they are. The assumption is that he will go there and kiss their asses and in return get his ass kissed. I'd happily be wrong ...
 
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