The Trump Presidency - how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Hair

Interrobang;n3554479 said:
And I also wouldn't disagree with that. Germany also does not have citizenship at birth. While he lies about "america being the only country in the world that does this" - If I were Us-citizen, that would be something that I'd too wanna see changed. But - as I learned in a lot of 2nd Amendment discussions here: The Amendments are UNCHANGABLE and almost HOLY and given by GOD and no mortal is allowed to touch them these days. At least the 2nd. Which I also think should be changed.
So, I am expecting hypocracy. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong on this and the pro 2nd amendment people will defend no14 with the same vigor ...

Amendments can be changed, but it should be done legally, not unilaterally by unelected and unaccountable justices. The bizarre interpretation of 2A, that claims gun ownership is not an individual right, clashes quite badly with the rest of the bill of rights, which protect the rights of the people, mainly from the US government itself. The 14th Amendment clearly states that it protects those that are subject to the jurisdiction of the US, which automatically implies exceptions. If there were not exceptions to 14A, those words would not appear there. The rest comes down to personal opinion. The Amendment itself requires no changes.
 
Interrobang;n3554479 said:
And I also wouldn't disagree with that. Germany also does not have citizenship at birth. While he lies about "america being the only country in the world that does this" - If I were Us-citizen, that would be something that I'd too wanna see changed. But - as I learned in a lot of 2nd Amendment discussions here: The Amendments are UNCHANGABLE and almost HOLY and given by GOD and no mortal is allowed to touch them these days. At least the 2nd. Which I also think should be changed.
So, I am expecting hypocracy. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong on this and the pro 2nd amendment people will defend no14 with the same vigor ...

I suppose that sort of a strong defense would be the same if someone proposed changing the 1st amendment.
 
Interrobang;n3554471 said:

I guess, but since Bernie has been harping on about us in the Nordic countries, the White House released a report saying we (this time singling out Denmark) are dangerous socialists, comparing us to the likes of Venezuela, China and the Soviet Union. Additionally funny that neither Norway (since 2013), nor Denmark (since 2015) are currently governed by social democratic or socialist parties.

It's also interesting to see how the Trump administration is lining their own pockets. Especially when you remember how he was lambasting the Clintons for for their "pay for play" practices during his campaign. The Donald and his aides has just taken this to a way higher level, and that seems to be another feature of the Trump-administration - amazing hypocrisy.
 
Interrobang;n3554479 said:
And I also wouldn't disagree with that. Germany also does not have citizenship at birth. While he lies about "america being the only country in the world that does this" - If I were Us-citizen, that would be something that I'd too wanna see changed. But - as I learned in a lot of 2nd Amendment discussions here: The Amendments are UNCHANGABLE and almost HOLY and given by GOD and no mortal is allowed to touch them these days. At least the 2nd. Which I also think should be changed.
So, I am expecting hypocracy. Dunno, maybe I'm wrong on this and the pro 2nd amendment people will defend no14 with the same vigor ...

TC mostly covered this however to be pedantic about it. The *amendments* do not change, the Constitution, which amendments are a part of, can be change via the amendment process, which is covered quite explicitly in the, you guessed it, the Constitution. There is nothing stopping the Congress from amending the constitution to change either the 2A, 14A or even 1A but that is still down to Congress and not a single other branch of the government.

As far as being a US citizen wanting citizenship rules to change, I am a US citizen and I don't want these rules to change. The problem is not people having babies, the problem is taxation and wealth redistribution. After all if your car gets bad mileage you don't throw out the car and walk everywhere, you get a more efficient car.
 
It takes more than an act of congress to amend the constitution. The state legislatures also get to have a vote in the process.
 
LeVeL;n3554497 said:
[...] Care to retort?
No. Especially not since your main argument is about splitting hairs on what contestutes race and thus racism. Saying people from middle and south america don't experience racism in the Us is just a slap in the face.

[...]WaPo won't let me read their site but I am not aware of Trump saying that immigrants commit MORE crimes than native-born Americans.
https://www.businessinsider.nl/immig...speech-2017-3/

buisnessinsider said:
[...]On Tuesday night, President Donald Trump called on the Department of Homeland Security to create an office to documents crimes committed by immigrants.
In an emotional address to Congress, Trump proposed VOICE -short for Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement – to publish a regular repository of crimes committed by anyone who has ever moved to the US.[...]
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/28/trum...mmigrants.html
cnbc said:
Trump calls for new government agency for 'victims of crime' by immigrants[...]

And you cannot open the Washinton Posts page? Did they get a restraining order against you? ;) (a little Joke, come on!)
 
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LeVeL;n3554497 said:
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[Claim 1: Trump wouldn't rent to blacks. There's no actual evidence of this; anyone can sue anyone for any reason.
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Except it wasn't anyone it was the US Department of Justice based on evidence gathered by testers for the New York City Human Rights Division. Again your a simple farmer so why don't you just say it. It doesn't matter what crimes Trump has committed or will try to perpetrate because youre his boy.
 
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2/10 insult, -14/10 execution
 
I think it's time to move on from the race arguments. Whether it's true or not, I think a better argument might have more to do with class and wealth. I think that is what motivates Trump more. He likes people with power, wealth, status. So when he goes after immigrants, minorities etc you can either view it from the perceptive of race or social/economic standing.

The problem with pushing the argument about race, even if it's true, is that in American politics it hasn't proved an effective strategy.

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I should point out that I probably think that most of our elected officials are racist or prejudiced in some way or another anyway. Democrats have played a role in racist policies as well (crime bill, drug war etc).
 
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LeVeL;n3554509 said:
In what way(s) has Trump "gone after" immigrants and minorities? I'm an immigrant and a religious minority - how is the President "going after" me?

Isn't Boston a Sanctuary City? So don't worry, those libtarts around you will keep you safe! Stay safe LeVeL! If you have to go into hinding, make sure to write a diary!
 
Break a law and ICE will be breathing down your neck.
 
LeVeL;n3554545 said:
Break a law and ICE won't do a thing because I came here legally and became a citizen.


There are more than a few examples that prove otherwise.
 
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