The who have Top Gear insulted this week thread

Aston Martin said:
'Mexico doesn't have an Olympic team... because anyone who can run, jump or swim is already across the border.'
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EDIT: See Dicky, this is how you reply you pathetic short, little man.
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Hmmm, Hammond's response looks rather feckless in comparison. :D
 
cookiebun said:
This was interesting:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan
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It's interesting, that he brings in ethnicity and obviously doesn't consider Mexicans belonging to the "white race". As I understand it, the stereotypes are only targeted at the Mexicans of Spanish ancestry.

In that case you also wouldn't be allowed to make any stereotypical jokes about the Italians or the Greek.. or the Spanish, because they are all Southerners. Only too bad the Greek invented democracy and founded our Western civilization.

Somebody hasn't quite thought through, what he said...
 
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While I agree that the Hamster has built a career on being Jezza's prop, that smug, coke-sniffing knob-jockey should keep his hypocritical opinions to himself. From what I've heard about him through various sources he is one of the biggest pricks in UK showbusiness.
 
I can't wait for Sunday... new round of insults coming, you know. ;-)

Anyway, I never thought of Richard's TG character as a friendly, pleasant and respectful chap that you'd have share a beer with at any time; never mind the occasional outburst of stubbornness. That's James. Richard is more the sort of person that makes a fuss about himself trying to get noticed. And dare I say he's got rather good at it.
 
I can't take the Coogan article seriously. Firstly, I keep hearing Alan Partridge's voice every time I read it. Secondly, I went to see his last live show. Alan Partridge was brilliant; the rest of it was horribly past its use-by date. To act as some great moral crusader when the final act in his live show was a musical number with gratuitous use of the 'c' word is just a little much.
 
cookiebun said:
This was interesting:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/feb/05/top-gear-offensive-steve-coogan
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I think it's spot on. Some of the quotes:


"I normally remain below the parapet when these frenetic arguments about comedy and taste break out. But this time, I've had enough of the regular defence you tend to hear ? the tired line that it's "just a laugh", a bit of "harmless fun"."

Some of the Lads' comments again, in case you missed them. "Mexican cars are just going to be lazy, feckless, flatulent, overweight, leaning against a fence asleep looking at a cactus, with a blanket with a hole in the middle on as a coat" (Richard Hammond). Mexican food is "sick with cheese on it" (James May).

The BBC's initial mealy-mouthed apology was pitiful. It cited the more benign rivalry that exists between European nations (ah, those arrogant French, over-organised Germans), and in doing so neatly sidestepped one hugely important fact ? ethnicity. All the examples it uses to legitimise this hateful rubbish are relatively prosperous countries full of white people. How about if the Lads had described Africans as lazy, feckless etc? Or Pakistanis?

"If I say anything remotely racist or sexist as Alan Partridge, for example, the joke is abundantly clear. We are laughing at a lack of judgment and ignorance. With Top Gear it is three rich, middle-aged men laughing at poor Mexicans. Brave, groundbreaking stuff, eh?"

There is a strong ethical dimension to the best comedy. Not only does it avoid reinforcing prejudices, it actively challenges them. Put simply, in comedy, as in life, we ought to think before we speak. This wasn't one of those occasions. In fact, the comments were about as funny as a cold sweat followed by shooting pains down the left arm. In fact, if I can borrow from the Wildean wit of Richard Hammond, the comic approach was "lazy", "feckless" and "flatulent".
 
BBCA is having a Top Gear marathon this weekend. Steve Coogan had been on not 20 minutes before I saw that article online.
What timing.
 
Coogan has had his own segment on new TG (One of only two people, to have had this if I remember correctly)... he should not be fucking with them.
 
The comments section in that article is seething with such Top Gear hatred, I get the impression the commenters are bigots and ignoramuses themselves. I'm fine with a balanced view on things, and some of the issues brought up do ring true, but this mass jumping on the toxic bandwagon just to feel like you belong to the crowd doesn't speak well of the commenters, does it... :yucky:
 
GreenBullet said:
The comments section in that article is seething with such Top Gear hatred, I get the impression the commenters are bigots and ignoramuses themselves. I'm fine with a balanced view on things, and some of the issues brought up do ring true, but this mass jumping on the toxic bandwagon just to feel like you belong to the crowd doesn't speak well of the commenters, does it... :yucky:
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It's The Guardian - the world's most self-righteous newspaper. Their commenters are always like that. They're just thrilled that the show has given them an excuse for another bout of bile and invective.
 
fuck me, perspective!

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Society/article535634.ece

As the latest mischief from the BBC?s Top Gear programme whipped up a minor diplomatic incident with Mexico, Britain?s equality chief decided to inject a dose of common sense.

Rather than endorse the howls of ?racism? and ?xenophobia?, Trevor Phillips ignored the demands for action by dismissing as ?dinosaurs? those who become upset by the ?Top Gear Tendency?.

This week he will criticise the ?PC lobby? for being fixated with chastising the ?schoolboy? antics of people such as Jeremy Clarkson and for spuriously citing the Equality Act to try to get programmes taken off the air.

In a wide-ranging speech that will mark a significant change in the Equality and Human Rights Commission?s role, Phillips will brush aside threats to sue the BBC over disparaging remarks about Mexicans by a Top Gear presenter.

?There is no need for us to become dinner party detectives. We need to separate out and concentrate our efforts on the truly dangerous ? the English Defence League, for example ? rather than the trivial, the tasteless and the vulgar,? he says, in a draft of his speech seen by The Sunday Times.

While critics might accuse Clarkson of rudeness and a puerile sense of humour, Phillips says the Top Gear team?s ?carefully cultivated notoriety? does not warrant the demands for prosecution and punishment made by the politically correct brigade.

?Both the Top Gear Tendency, which bangs on about obnoxious feminists, and the PC lobby, which wants the commission to be a strident, boot-faced, politically correct thought-police are now just hanging on at the fringes of public life. They are all, like the dinosaurs, on their way out,? he says.

Richard Hammond, one of Clarkson?s co-presenters on Top Gear, described Mexicans as ?lazy, feckless, flatulent [and] overweight?. Adding to the insult, Clarkson and his other co-presenter James May described Mexican food as ?refried sick?.

Although the BBC apologised to the Mexican ambassador, who had complained about the ?xenophobic? and ?offensive? remarks, Phillips is scornful of plans by a Mexican woman in London to sue the BBC for racism, in a case which her lawyers claimed could cost the corporation up to ?1m. He was also dismissive of The Guardian newspaper, which suggested the case could become the first brought under the Equality Act that came into force last September.

?Even if we had the powers to intervene in what is said on TV, the commission, for example, does not need to respond to every bit of schoolboy provocation on the BBC ? let?s say about the character of the Mexican people. Getting into a ruck with Clarkson about what he says about one group of people or another will not change anyone?s mind or tackle prejudice.?

Phillips will contrast the attack on Clarkson and Top Gear with what he regards as justified public outrage over the ?Alf Garnett bigotry? of the television presenters Andy Gray and Richard Keys who worked for Sky Sports. Gray was sacked and Keys resigned after sexual comments they made off air about women.

Phillips said: ?The playground-style finger-pointing that now sometimes passes for humour is just cruel and bullying and above all just isn?t funny. Britain has moved on.? He said few employers or organisations needed heavy-handed intervention to show them how to tackle the problem. ?A good example is the Sky Sports debacle, where James Murdoch and his executives did not hesitate to show Andy Gray and Richard Keys the red card. Good for them. And we did not have to issue angry statements, or ring anyone and threaten some kind of legal action.?

Phillips?s comments come as the commission faces budget cuts of almost 60%. Its workforce will be slashed from a peak of more than 500 in 2007 to fewer than 200 in mid-2012.
 
Oh my god. I've always been a massive Steve Coogan fan but this was just over the top. If you are going to watch Top Gear, don't take what they are saying so seriously. I mean, if you are offended by this comedy, why are you even watching? I could have the guys taking the piss out of any thing even remotely close to my heart any day of the week and just take it light-heartedly because I know it's not really meant that seriously.

If BBC World News prestented this kind of ridicolous views I could understand the critisism but when a comedy show about cars gets attacked for its views, it's really too much. The only reason Top Gear is so popular is because people actually like their humour. How many americans aren't watching the show despite the numerous attacks upon their culture? Exactly, they don't take it seriously.

When Coogan goes on about Top Gear having a responsibilty because they are so popular worldwide it's quite ironic. So if Top Gear was only watched by small number of people in the UK, it would be OK for them to take the piss out of anyone? Why can't they have the same views despite having worldwide coverage?

Steve, if you are so fed up with this so called racism, why not just stop watching it? The same goes for everyone else even remotely offended by their jokes. Socialist cunts.
 
Ok this has been rehashed several pages over now...

I've been watching TG for a very long time...since the series inception actually. Never missed an episode. They consistently make jabs at the US, but nothing is ever directed in a intentionally hurtful way. RH's Mexico rant went far beyond the usual TG stereotypical banter...I can understand people becoming upset about it. I also thought it was completely unfunny :|
 
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Okay I know this is my first post but I just re-watched the news clip again. Directly after they do the Mexican car Jeremy goes on to make fun of the size of his manhood which in my opinion is a touchy subject for any man and he does it willingly. They do all this for fun and the laughs. Richard explained why he said what he said and it may have come off a bit malicious but that wasn't the intent. Its been said already but everyone should calm down accept the apology and move on. That's my two cents.
 
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*reads Coogan's Grauniad blathering*

 
Well...after rereading the entire thread (kill me now!:lol:), rewatching the News from last week and plowing through all the most recent commentary here, I'm thinking a couple of things:

1. In one regard, Jeremy is wrong. Mexicans have a wonderful sense of humor. I see it every day. But it's not his sense of humor. It is not the English sense of humor. And, it is not the Spanish sense of humor. Methinks that perhaps someone on staff did not understand that something the Spaniards might shrug off would infuriate the Mexicans. I do love that pic of Jeremy in the Sun, though!

2. This entire mess would not have happened if the original comments had been targeted at a more usual target, i.e., French, Americans, Germans, whatever.

3. If the entire exchange was indeed scripted, then whoever did it needs to be immersed in the Mexican culture for a while as an...education.

4. I do so love the lack of political correctness on Top Gear and continue to recommend the program to anyone who might be interested. But when content dances on the edge of the razor...and slips...ouch!

Let's face it ... number four is what keeps us all coming back for more!

And I still want to know more about that car!

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Although granted, it's no Audi inside! :eek:

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I bet $5 and a Datsun shirt as TG will test the Mastretta MXT on the next series, or maybe even find a way to test it on the next episodes (even if this series is already filmed)
 
Mike Nassour said:
And I still want to know more about that car!

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Although granted, it's no Audi inside! :eek:

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Wikipedia is your friend. Even in Spanish :p


Mr Himura said:
I bet $5 and a Datsun shirt as TG will test the Mastretta MXT on the next series, or maybe even find a way to test it on the next episodes (even if this series is already filmed)
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No.

Just imagine Jeremy doesn't like it. It would be racism discussion all over again.
 
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