Fast and Furious fans? I'm sure they are already prepping the next film for this. In addition to those fans, those who loved the original back in the day now have the 60k to drop on a more comfortable reincarnation.prizrak;n3550303 said:That's basically what I was thinking myself, if it's going to cost this much and be a "premium" sports car just call the damn thing a Lexus and get it over with. Another nail in it's coffin is the fact that the "400Z" is going to come with more power in the lowest trim and not likely to cost much more than the current Z. So really what is the market for this?
The WRX and STi are based off the Impreza platform (which itself is shared by their other cars) so the development costs aren't as great as building a bespoke sports car platform themselves. The Z platform hasn't been updated since the Bush administration, and the NSX is a low production halo car built without a concern for earning its development costs back.prizrak;n3550347 said:That's basically what I was saying, they are banking on the name alone rather than anything specific to the car.
Aside from BRZ Subaru still did the WRX/STi all on their own. Nissan's Z, Honda's NSX, Ze Germans all make sports cars all on their own so a partnership sports car is more of an aberration than the norm. Though all in all that's not my problem, my problem is that it's a Toyota, without Toyota reliability for BMW money. Won't even bring performance into this. I really don't see a compelling reason for the Supra over say an M2 (if we are comparing like for like) aside from being "bro I got a Supra"
The official story is that Toyota tore down the engine (much like in the video) and also measured and tested components and tolerances to see if they were up to their standards before accepting to use the BMW engine.Remind me again, this is just a BMW engine, right? Not quite like the BRZ/GT86/XQY engine where it was Subaru's engine, but Toyota provided the direct fuel injection.
I have a hard time imagining that the M2 is in any way dynamically worse than a Supra. Also even if we only compare auto to auto the DCT in the M2 would make for a much sportier experience as compared to a slushbox from the Z4.Me too.
I think it looks better and can be had with a manual.
No idea about driving dynamics, though.
I don't doubt they will be making 1500hp soon, but that means so little.There are probably some Yamaha engineers (Yamaha is who Toyota has been outsourcing some engine design out to for a long time now) headdesking at this moment over the engine choice there...
Someone call me when the new alleged "Supra" can do this.
Yes, but look at the 1000hp Supra in the second vid. Even the presenter has to agree that it's perfectly tractable, could be a commuter just fine, etc. Supras with stupendous horsepower that have the rest of the equation balanced are by no means unusual - most of them aren't used as pure drag cars but highway roll-on queens and are more often than not actually used on the street.I don't doubt they will be making 1500hp soon, but that means so little.
Yeah, great, you can make a lot of power. That is ONE part of the equation.