narf
Sgt. Maj. Buzzkill
Obviously... but you quoted HP so I quoted the same.
I didn't state my hp, I merely said the 200hp minimum for struggling in first set by TestECull is not met by my engine.
Obviously... but you quoted HP so I quoted the same.
My 1.4 makes front tyres struggle in first gear. It's far from 200hp.
My 1.4 makes front tyres struggle in first gear. It's far from 200hp.
Making the tyres slip is less about power than about torque at the wheels.
I lived with a 1.6L inline four for a couple of years. Learned to drive on it. It lacked sufficient power to impress me. When I was getting on the freeway I laid into it, shifted just below redline, which oddly enough for a DOHC inline four was only 5900RPM, and it still felt like I could push it faster.If you rarely use such small engines with this kind of power you'll have a hard time judging their perofmance. The 500 has enough grunt with any engine configuration.
Put economy tires on a geo metro and it will smoke 'em both all day long. Doesn't change the fact that I want some damn power out of my cars, and on normal tires(Re: Not eco-yuppie long life economy safety hazard tires, which scarily are standard on a lot of eco-minded citycars) a car with less than 200HP is going to struggle to spin them in first gear.
Economy engines lack both. In order to make either one you need to burn fuel, and this goes against the goal of the typical four cylinder engine.
It was rated at 110HP and 125FT LBs.
I don't like engines that have no torque. I don't want to have to drop three gears and rev until the valves dance around on the hood to get around a drunken semi. I want useable power right off of idle. Call me spoiled by large displacement, lazy, low-revving torque monsters if you want but I want some brute force, and I have yet to run across a four cylinder commuter car that had any to offer.
Making the tyres slip is less about power than about torque at the wheels.
Economy engines lack both.
Diesel
Have you ever heard of a thing called diesel?
Oh, and before you point it out, I am fully aware that a supercharged or large displacement I4 can make the type of power I want. But you don't find those in commuter cars. You find them in sports cars like the Miata. Or S2000. Or anything by Lotus/Caterham. Or any of the hopped up Minis. Even a Cobalt SS will work if you don't mind a bit of torque steer. Coincidentally these are also the small cars I actually want.
Diesel
It's not an issue unless you drive badly. And for people who drive badly there's an easy escape route in a doppelkopplungsgetriebe or similar.Diesel will give more torque, but then you have the problem of a ridiculously narrow powerband causing the same shifting requirement he complained about.
Diesel will give more torque, but then you have the problem of a ridiculously narrow powerband causing the same shifting requirement he complained about.
I'm taking a leap... I have just listed my GTI for sale and will be buying a 500 as soon as I sell it.
1.8t down to a 1.2, this car is that good. I took an extended drive with my friend's 500 and I'm convinced.
I'm taking a leap... I have just listed my GTI for sale and will be buying a 500 as soon as I sell it.
1.8t down to a 1.2, this car is that good. I took an extended drive with my friend's 500 and I'm convinced.