Jostyrostelli
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I hear you only double clutch with non synchro-mesh gearboxes...
Do you also double clutch with old trucks?
Do you also double clutch with old trucks?
Jostyrostelli said:Aah Okej! Other word for what I already knew...so if you don't have a synchro-mesh gearbox you still have to double clutch on the way up.
Yes, but you shouldn't tap the throttle on upshifting. Because you need less revs than at lower gear.Mischief007 said:With the older gear boxes you had to do that for the upshift as well or you would be crunching some gears...lol.
MXM said:Yes, but you shouldn't tap the throttle on upshifting. Because you need less revs than at lower gear.
The idea behind it is to syncronize the spinning mass between clutch and gearbox to be equal with gearbox. You can actually put a gear in without clutch at all, if revs are perfectly matched. I have no idea why the hell they needed it in F&F :lol:
And on downshifting... It's usefull on old cars, but I haven't heard anyone using double-de-clutching while racing. It take too long, so you hardly win any time. Tapping the throttle while clutch is pressed is enough to match engine revs and switch gear smoothly.
MXM said:Tapping the throttle while clutch is pressed is enough to match engine revs and switch gear smoothly.
Phix said:I've been a '88 Cavalier Z24 and the clutch is SOOOOOOO DAMN LONG! I mean, fuck, I actually had to slide myself further into the seat just so I can get the clutch to the damn floor. What the hell is up with that.
Cubits said:You only have to push the pedal in far enough to disengage the clutch. On most cars it's about half way. On my car it's about 10% in. Means to shift gears i just tap the clutch. It's really, really quick. Just makes my car a total ass in stop/start traffic, but then the 205 always had a grabby clutch.
If you learn to heel/toe correctly, you can shift down gears without using the clutch. I learnt how to do that in my old car (suzuki swift gti). It was truly awful in corners, but had really feely controls, so it was easy to learn in.
Once you can heel/toe effectively without the clutch, you can switch to left foot braking, and forget the clutch altogether (apart from starting/stopping the car). Clutchless shifts are brilliantly fast and smooth, it's really amazing the first few times (the first few times you nail it).
Oh, i must point out that you practice left foot braking a lot before you try driving without the clutch, it takes a while to unlearn to dip the left foot between gears (and causing you to headbutt the windscreen).