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What will 2005 bring us?

Jostyrostelli

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Well I thought some of you might find this interesting, this is a summary about the European car-brands. I wanted to put links in it too but you all have hands and the letters g-o-o-g-l-e on your keyboard so that will do.

Alfa Romeo
Alfa Romeo 147.
Alfa Romeo 156.
Alfa Romeo 157.
Alfa Brera.
Alfa Romeo 147 4x4.

Audi
Audi A6 Avant, march.
Audi A8 Facelift.
Audi A3 Facilift.
Audi RS4 Avant. (420bhp V8)
Audi RS4 Sedan.
Audi Q7.

Bentley
Bentley Continental Saloon (W12).

BMW
BMW 3-series, march.
BMW 7-series facelift and engines, march.
BMW 5-series new engines.
BMW M6, around the summer.

Citroen
Citroen C1.
Citroen C6.

Fiat
Fiat Croma.
Fiat Punto.
Fiat Panda Abarth.
Fiat Panda SUV (can you believe it?)

Ford
Ford Focus ST, end of 2005.
Ford Focus Sedan.
Ford Fiesta facelift.
Ford Fusion facelift.

Honda
Honda Civic.
Honda Legend will be back in Europe.
Honda NSX.

Lexus
Lexus RX400h hybrid.
Lexus GS.
Lexus IS.

Mazda
MAzda 6 MPS.
Mazda 5 (Premacy)
Mazda MX-5.

Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes B-class midi MPV.
Mercedes A-class.
Mercedes M-class.
Mercedes R-class (GST)
Mercedes CLK facelift.
Mercedes S-class.

Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi CZ3.
Mitsubishi CZT.

Nissan
Nissan Murano.
Nissan 350Z Roadster.
Nissan Micra CoupeCabrio.
Nissan Tone.

Opel
Opel Zafira Facelift.
Opel Astra GTC.
Opel Astra CoupeCabrio.
Opel Frontera.
Opel Signum Facelift.

Peugeot
Peugeot 1007.
Peugeot 107.
Peugeot 607 Facelift.
Peugeot 307 Facelift.
Peugeot 407 Coupe.

Porsche
Porsche 911 Cabrio.
Porsche Boxster Coupe.

Renault
Renault Clio.
Renault Kangoo.
Renault Laguna Facelift.
Renault Vel Satis Facelift.

Saab
Saab 9-3 SportHatch.

Seat
Seat Toledo Stationwagon.

Skoda
Skoda Octavia Combi.
Skoda Octavia Combi 4x4.
Skoda Octavia RS Hatchback. (Diesel and Petrol)

Suzuki
Suzuki Swift 101bhp.
Suzuki Swift GTI.
Suzuki Swift Cabrio.
Suzuki Grand Vitara.

Toyota
Toyota Aygo.
Toyota Yaris Facelift.
Toyota RAV4 Facelift.
Toyota Avensis Facelift, engine.

Volkswagen
Volkswagen Golf Plus.
Volkswagen Passat.
Volkswagen Fox.
Volkswagen Bora.
Volkswagen CrossGolf.
Volkswagen Golf R32.

Volvo
Volvo XC90 new engines.
Volvo C70.
 
I wouldn't hold my breath about the R32 Golf.
 
Couldbe a good car but it's already dull to me. I'd like to see the Skoda Octavis RS Diesel. Will it be faster?
 
They got so much different lines, facelifting every 2-3 years, always the same...

Volkswagen Fox? That's supposed to come out in Germany???

Haven't heard of it...

Buba
 
can someone explain the Mercedes R class.... I don't think the S-class replacement is going to come out this year for sale... I've barely seen 1 spyshot
 
A Minivan/SUV thing

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R-class left, B-class right, these are concepts but they are basically going to look the same...with smaller wheels and tires probably.
 
Fiat Panda Abarth?

FIAT PANDA SUV???!!!

Are Fiat gone Mad?????!!!!!
 
Ethan said:
Fiat Panda Abarth?

FIAT PANDA SUV???!!!

Are Fiat gone Mad?????!!!!!

Hehe, same thinking here, how do you convert a small car into an SUV?

Too much
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Jostyrostelli said:
Couldbe a good car but it's already dull to me. I'd like to see the Skoda Octavis RS Diesel. Will it be faster?
Certainly not.

But when I say I wouldn't hold my breath...I mean don't count on the R32 (or R36, as it's rumored to be) being released anytime this year.
 
Jostyrostelli said:
Ethan said:
Fiat Panda Abarth?

FIAT PANDA SUV???!!!

Are Fiat gone Mad?????!!!!!

Hehe, same thinking here, how do you convert a small car into an SUV?

Too much
weed.gif
Ask Smart. Oh, wait...they apparently don't know the answer either, as their ForFour/Colt-based ForMore is delayed.
 
Dr. Woo said:
Jostyrostelli said:
Couldbe a good car but it's already dull to me. I'd like to see the Skoda Octavis RS Diesel. Will it be faster?
Certainly not.

But when I say I wouldn't hold my breath...I mean don't count on the R32 (or R36, as it's rumored to be) being released anytime this year.

Oh I didn't mean Will the Octavia be faster then the Golf, more: Would it be faster then a similar petrol car.;)
 
Dr. Woo said:
Jostyrostelli said:
Ethan said:
Fiat Panda Abarth?

FIAT PANDA SUV???!!!

Are Fiat gone Mad?????!!!!!

Hehe, same thinking here, how do you convert a small car into an SUV?

Too much
weed.gif
Ask Smart. Oh, wait...they apparently don't know the answer either, as their ForFour/Colt-based ForMore is delayed.

Hmm you think the ForFour is an SUV? Sports Utility Vehicle?
Sports: It's not that sporty/fast.
Utility: What do you want to do with a Fiat SUV? Will probably be a small car anyway..
 
Jostyrostelli said:
Oh I didn't mean Will the Octavia be faster then the Golf, more: Would it be faster then a similar petrol car.;)
Hmm...could be. Not familiar with all the European VAG engines.
Jostyrostelli said:
Hmm you think the ForFour is an SUV? Sports Utility Vehicle?
Sports: It's not that sporty/fast.
Utility: What do you want to do with a Fiat SUV? Will probably be a small car anyway..
The ForFour is not an SUV, but Smart is building an SUV based on the ForFour called the ForMore.

As for the Panda "SUV," it'll probably just be a taller, wider Panda.
 
You've seen the Top Gear ep with the Fabia RS TDI against the Mini Cooper S right? The Fabia won, that's why I'm interested to know what his bigger brother can do.
 
Jostyrostelli said:
You've seen the Top Gear ep with the Fabia RS TDI against the Mini Cooper S right? The Fabia won, that's why I'm interested to know what his bigger brother can do.
No, I haven't seen that...that's very interesting! I've always been intrigued by the potential of Diesel performance, mostly since I'm a big VAG fan.

Do you know offhand what episode that's from?
 
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