That's what I like about my car. It's a happy medium between the old-school V8 musclecar looks and straight-line grunt of the Challenger and the tossability and nimbleness of the Miata. Plus, I fit in it - which is always a plus in my book.No worse than most of the Mustang guys or the rotards.
I have a Navy friend who has a new(er) Challanger and he used to make fun of my Miata like crazy, until we took a trip to Washington DC. He didn't want to take his beloved Challanger because it would of cost us 90 billion dollars in fuel. When we got there I was weaving in and out of traffic, going full speed up and down on ramps and doing very tight u-turns when we got lost. He later said he'd never make fun of the car again and that I was doing things he'd never even consider doing with his Yank Tank.
Hi - also a moron, here. You bring up many good points (Except the eating and drinking part, but that's my personal opinion.). Automated manuals and automatic transmissions are much more efficient.The Spie said:Frankly, if you live in an urban area and willingly drive a manual, you're a moron.
In my case, I'm not compromising anything. M'Fit has more cargo capacity than a Civic, it's lighter than a Civic, it has a smaller engine than a Civic so it gets better mileage, and it handles better than a Civic. Best of all, I'm not driving a Civic.Hatchbacks. What is the point of a shitty compromise of everything.
Again, conditions are different here. It used to be that way here a long time ago, but then automatics became the default instead of an optional extra. From looking at the reprobate sons and daughters of m'Fit, prices are pretty much the same for the manual and auto.Price. Going by list prices, the auto for my Octavia would have been an 1800? option.
Nah. We may have gone after each other in the past, but it's not out of hatred or belief that the other was a moron. It's more friendly arguments if anything. I don't necessarily think you're a moron for driving a manual in an urban area. However, the fact that you live in Boston...Hi, I live in Boston and drive a manual. I'm sure you thought I was a moron before though
Now this is where we differ. I spent three years in Frankfurt traffic every day driving a manual VW 9-pack. Believe me, that is the definition of "extra work". I was so happy to get back to the States, into my beloved Shadow, and not have to shift.I've commuted in heavy stop-and-go traffic for two hours each way for work before and I never once minded having to shift gears. It's not extra work for me, it's second nature.
I'm very Germanic when it comes to efficiency. I don't want to have to do anything more than I absolutely have to.CAPT_Howdy said:Automated manuals and automatic transmissions are much more efficient.
I don't deny that. I just don't think it's necessary. I also don't think that it's the be-all-and-end-all of the driving experience, like the Manual Transmission Snobs do. I'm sick and tired of seeing that shit here, not to mention its omniversal pervasion at Jalopnik. Every time they put an automatic in there as NPOCP, you're guaranteed at least three "no manual, therefore CP" responses. At least at Pissed-On-Heads, there's usually only one response like that if they make an auto SOTW.So why do I drive a manual? Because it's fun. I feel fully in control, a part of my car rather than apart from it. There is a certain amount of pleasure to be had in driving a car with a manual smoothly up and down through the gears.
And since when has masturbation not been fun? I'm just saying that if you want to masturbate, actually masturbate. Don't simulate it with three thousand pounds of metal and plastic using a vertical rod that's not attached to you.You call it masturbation, I call it fun.
I've already done the minivan thing. I survived. So can you.And I'm glad at my age that I'm still able to have fun behind the wheel of a car, and haven't been forced into an SUV or minivan.
Looking at honda.com, the auto still is a pricey option on a Fit.Again, conditions are different here. It used to be that way here a long time ago, but then automatics became the default instead of an optional extra. From looking at the reprobate sons and daughters of m'Fit, prices are pretty much the same for the manual and auto.
I'm much more against the Civic type of hatchbacks. The Jazz is much more practical (but I still wouldn't have one as here at least they're solely bought by old people).In my case, I'm not compromising anything. M'Fit has more cargo capacity than a Civic, it's lighter than a Civic, it has a smaller engine than a Civic so it gets better mileage, and it handles better than a Civic. Best of all, I'm not driving a Civic.
If you're counting the 9000 as a hatchback (and yes I know it technically is); I don't. Saab's are great and huge :lol:Sometimes the compromises aren't entirely shitty.
I want inPaging LCG for a Saab/RX8/Miata Boston-area get-together... Perhaps we should move to the MA meetup thread
Who knows. Maybe someone would've made a case for it over on Priuschat or something.We are expecting answers? I thought this was meant to be rhetorical and stuff...
I see where you're coming from but I have to agree with LeVeL. A few months back I drove a colleague's VW Golf auto around Brighton and tbh it was bliss. I've got a couple of options lined up for when I eventually replace the MX5 and I was starting to think about getting the slushbox versions but then the other day I left a meeting in town to head back to the office at a time when the roads were relatively quiet and it was warm and sunny enough to drop the roof and in moments like that when I am getting the most out of my car the idea of an auto is complete anathema to me.Manuals in cities are pointless.
Yes but you're Finnish. Which means you came out of the womb sideways with a fistful of opposite lock.This whole "manual in the city is pointless" is a bit odd to me. Having learned on a manual(as you should), and mostly driving a manual I never even think about it while driving. It's second nature. Even if automatic is easier and more comfortable. I can't see how this can be a big issue.