Difficulties on deciding which party to elect? Here's the "Wahl-o-Mat" for you

yeah, FDP by a long way. Only had one difference other than the neutrals for subjects I have no knowledge of.

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I think it is interesting that all the literature describes them as being liberals. At least coming from the American system I would consider them fairly conservative, at least economically which these days seems to be everything in the US.
 
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So wait, your school system seems like it punishes people hard for being screw offs (see: kids) at 6-10 years old. Is that right or did I misread that?

Well, yes and no.

While theoretically you need to have a certain grade level to pass from elementary school into Gymnasiym, or else you can only go to Hauptschule, it's not really that hard.

I was a major screw-off in elementary school, you wouldn't believe how often I was in detention for screwing around in class, or even more commonly, for not doing my homework. And yet I still managed the 2.33 grade average in 4th grade (btw, you only need the average in your 4th grade report card, not over your entire elementary school career).

And even if you don't manage it, you can continue on to 5th grade in the Hauptschule, and then switch to Gymnasium after that (but re-enter 5th grade - yeah education tends to stretch on a bit here).

What actually gets more people here is when they start to take french/latin in 7th grade gymnasium, or within the course of 7th through 10th grade for subjects like math, chemistry, or once again, latin/french. At this point they have to transfer to a lower school, at the loss of one year, or at no loss of time at all (depends on the situation).

The way I see it, any kid can get into Gymnasium, but not every teenager can stay in Gymnasium. When I started gymnasium there were 9 5th grade classes, from 5a) through 5i), accounting for about 300 fifth graders total. In 11th grade there were only 6 classes, 11a) through 11f), and by the time I graduated (no more classes in 12th and 13th grade, just courses) there were 145 people in my class.

Also, even if you screw up and wind up in Realschule, and get some academic aspirations after graduating that after 10th grade, you can still go on to the FOS, which is grade 11-13, and then it is still possible for you to study - although universities do slightly prefer a Gymnasium graduate.

I think companies will stick around as long as they can find the right people to do the job in the country. Besides, corporations are good at evading taxes as it is (Malta anyone? ;)) so they are not such big victims as they want to be percieved... I don't say raise taxes either, but certainly not lower them.

That's kind of what I mean. They wouldn't have to resort to doing that if they weren't taxed the fuck. And while I'm not saying that those megacorps are victims, some of the smaller more honest ones are the victims of this.

My problem with GMO crop is that it can mutate with other plants and have unintended consequences. And being an advocate of ecological farming, I see no need to grow crops that have been made resistant to RoundUp or other pesticides in the first place. And I think Monsanto epitomise the image of a evil company. I don't like them either ;)

Well, I see you approach it from the opposite side as me. I have yet to see any conclusive proof that gene modified crops pose any sort of threat in my opinion, so I would give them the benefit of the doubt.

As a scientist, I am strongly opposed to hindering progress, based simply off "moral grounds". Where would we be if people had banned the railway, calling it witchcraft? So unless I see a really convincing reason not to further utilize a technology (for example - Asbestos), I would like to continue using it.

Your problem with DB is the same as mine, only I got the added luxury of battling with multiple companies to figure out how to get to places by train.

Well, I hate the DB on principle, and just drive by car as often as I can. I'd rather that my transport money goes to some crazy towelheads in the Arab world, than I would that it goes to fund the wages of the unfriendly people working at DB.

One of the train stretches I am sometimes forced to travel, is run and maintained by a third party, private company, the BOB (Bayrische OberlandBahn), and I have to say that's the only stretch of my train journey that I gladly take. The trains are punctual, the prices are fair, and the employees are friendly. If that's the future of privatized rail - bring it on.

Here any foreigner are allowed to vote in the municipial elections if they have lived here for 3 years. Citizens from EU-countries, Iceland and Norway are exempt from the time requirement and can vote from the day they file for residency.

Well, 3 years does seem a bit short to me, but that does make sense somewhat - moreso than being allowed to vote the day you get here.

yeah, FDP by a long way. Only had one difference other than the neutrals for subjects I have no knowledge of.

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I think it is interesting that all the literature describes them as being liberals. At least coming from the American system I would consider them fairly conservative, at least economically which these days seems to be everything in the US.

Well, the German/European definition of "Liberal" is quite different from the American definition.

Over here "Liberal" means "in seek of liberties" (which btw was also the case in the USA about half a century ago, until some idiot of a politician (I believe it was Lyndon B Johnson, but I may be wrong) decided that the word "socialism" would be too harsh for americans to accept, so he called the left party "liberal".

Now that that had happened, people who wanted liberties and rights, and nothing else, weren't able to call themselves liberals in the states anymore, so the word "libertarian" was invented.

Economically and politically I'd consider them fairly central (for american standards), but yes, somewhat conservative for German standards (which is why they tend to enter coaltions with the CDU, as I mentioned previously), but well off the side of the access in terms of allowing people freedom of choice - ie, legalizing gay partnerships, opposing speed limits, not taxing the shit out of people (ie, allowing people to put more of their money where they want to), not spying on the people, and of course being in favor of freedom of speech.
 
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God, it's no wonder you Americans all hate the German political views so much, you're all getting the correct party - which in reality only gets like 8% of the vote :(
 
God, it's no wonder you Americans all hate the German political views so much, you're all getting the correct party - which in reality only gets like 8% of the vote :(
If the FDP were truly liberal, they'd probably get more votes. But experience shows that they only care about their economic agenda (which is widely understood as: "if you get fucked by your employer, you're on your own", plus: less tax burden for employers, more for employees), all the rest you mentioned above tends to be shrugged off in order to get into a coalition with the conservatives (CDU).
 
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I just filled in my ballot and will send it away later today. Feels good!!:)
 
So wait, your school system seems like it punishes people hard for being screw offs (see: kids) at 6-10 years old. Is that right or did I misread that?

What klanky said is a good overview of the system.
But there's a catch - if you end up on the Hauptschule nowadays you are royally screwed, since nobody will want to hire you.
There has been a a gradual shift between a person's education and the sort of job they take. A lot of people who finish Gymnasium, and would be able to go to university don't go, and instead pursue jobs that don't require an academic education. Those people then push the lesser qualified people from the Realschule that would've traditionally taken those jobs into lower qualification work, and so on.

From my personal experience, this is mostly because the Gymnasium as the highest form of non-academic education has been seriously devaluated. If I think back to all the people in my grade, a lot of them really didn't belong there, and it's the same store in other places as well.
This means that the Gymnasium has more or less turned into the common school for everyone who's even just semi-intelligent. Which, in turn, has devaluated the two lower school forms - especially the Hauptschule - too, and has left it as basically a pool to collect those who have already failed - very often children of immigrant families that aren't really integrated into society at all (another one of those problems Germany brought upon itself). So the education in those schools is often just very rudimentary and leaves the children unwanted by most employers.

Long story short: the problem - as I see it, at least - is that the Gymnasium and Realschule have become the everyman's schools, whereas the Hauptschule has become a pool to catch all those who often don't even have the ability to participate in any sort of education (i.e. because of language problems), basically creating a group unqualified, unwanted, unemployed people.
 
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Long story short: the problem - as I see it, at least - is that the Gymnasium and Realschule have become the everyman's schools, whereas the Hauptschule has become a pool to catch all those who often don't even have the ability to participate in any sort of education (i.e. because of language problems), basically creating a group unqualified, unwanted, unemployed people.

That's an interesting problem.... how could one go about solving that?
 
As i am not really a card-carrying commie, but see myself as quite a leftist-liberakl, it did not come as a surprise to me that Piraten came in first, followed by the Green party (the green party actually would come out in front, wouldn't it be that i am radically opposed to a general speed limit on the Autobahn).
The FDP, as much as i'd like to see myself as a liberal, too, is completely unelectable cause of a) their lack of any personell one can take seriously that's under 80 and b) their -especially as we are just coming out of a major economic crisis- almost cynical look on social systems. Westerwelle just disqualified himself once again by calling most unemployed "lazy" last week.

What at first did surprise me is that the Nazi Party (NPD) came in second-to-last, in front of the CDU/CSU. Then i realized that i clicked "no" to "I think Christianity should be the basis to our society" which, of course, puts me closer to the Nazis than to Christian Conservatives.

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That's an interesting problem.... how could one go about solving that?
Eventhough the parent's obviously are at fault, it's society's problem, and i think it's cheaper to solve it now than to have the amout of people that are basically useless to society increase even further.

According to several teacher friends of mine the problem with kids not even being able to speak a simple sentence of correct german is no longer an immigrant problem, but also is true for many native german kids.

So what we basically need are daycare and after-school projects teaching these kids how to speak, how to read, that if you run someone over on the sidewalk, you should say "I'm sorry" and not "I fuck yours mother" and so on. If the parents are unwilling or unable to raise their kids, society has to do it - otherwise we can start building bigger jails right now, which hardly will be cheaper in the long run.
 
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Westerwelle just disqualified himself once again by calling most unemployed "lazy" last week.

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That's an interesting problem.... how could one go about solving that?

I don't really know, it's one of those hideously complicated problems without a simple answer. Of course, I have some ideas, but the problem has parts of its roots in so many aspects of the system, it seems almost impossible to come up with a cohesive plan from my perspective.
But I don't think simply abolishing the tripartite system and replacing it with a single common school would solve anything, since it wouldn't change anything about the underlying problem, only the symptom (the Hauptschul education having little to no value).
Of course, the obviously simple answer would be to "improve education", which is what many politicians seem to be going for. But that's such a silly blanket statement that it's no answer at all.

There's a problem with this problem itself too though, because I don't think any politician or party really wants to do anything about it. The best they come up with are speeches about how important education is and feel good legislation, but nothing that touches the core of the problem.
I'm not sure I can blame them for it though, because I from a logical perspective it's as understandable as it is saddening: tackling the problem would require a great deal of effort, spending and changes, with probably relatively little payoff in the elections, since schoolchildren can't vote, and most adults are not really concerned by this problem.


PS: Just heard on the radio, OECD study shows that Germany spends the least for education compared to other industrial countries. They also said that the study concluded that greater investement in improving eudcation would pay off through increased tax returns from increased wages for people with better education.
 
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PS: Just heard on the radio, OECD study shows that Germany spends the least for education compared to other industrial countries. They also said that the study concluded that greater investement in improving eudcation would pay off through increased tax returns from increased wages for people with better education.

....and less spending to lock people away later. That's the problem - the german education system is dramatically underfunded.
 
That's the problem - the german education system is dramatically underfunded.

Not just that, even if they once in a blue moon decide to pump a bit of money into the education system, it rarely goes into anything that results in any sort of improvement.
 
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Only blaming the family, the cultural background or the teachers is too simple. It has something to do with character and personality, too.

However, there is one big difference to earlier times.

Parents in the 1950's, 60's and 70's were obsessed with giving their children a better life than they had, especially in the lower classes. They made personal sacrifices for their children.

That has almost completely stopped. Parents of the lower classes today often simply do not care anymore what becomes of their children. Parents of today are unwilling to make personal sacrifices. And they do not show their children the limits, because that is exhausting.

Children are left to themselves far too often, they are being parked before the TV set and the Playstation. You hardly ever see any children playing outside anymore.

When I was little, I was outside all day, playing with friends in the dirt, running around the neighbourhood, only coming inside for the meals. When I was 7, I went to my grandma on my bicycle just for fun without telling anyone. She lived 15 km away. I walked to school, which was 5 km away. Children of today are driven there by their mums in SUV's, when school is 2 km away.

No wonder the kids of today have trouble starting a life with their own responsibilities.

The children of today start going outside later, when they hit puberty, when they form gangs and stand around in groups smoking, being pains in the asses to other people, because no one ever taught them how to behave correctly in a civilized society. That's how you grow criminals.

And that is a really serious problem not only in the lower classes. The rude idiots that fill our sidewalks and pedestrian areas today, unable to speak one grammatically correct sentence in their mother language, are nothing more than children that lack a good upbringing and their parents can as well live from social welfare or being dentists.

Still... everyone has the choice to decide for themselves "No, I don't wanna end up at the bottom of society, I wanna make something of myself and work hard to achieve my goals".

Everybody in our society has that chance. Nobody is denied it. All they have to do sometimes, is jumping over their own shadow and move their asses instead of waiting for others to move them.
 
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@macGuffin: See my entry above - i don't care who's at fault or what the parent's background is. These kids are society's problem, and the earlier we both take them by the hand and kick their asses so that they get their gig together, the less we'll have to spend on them on the long run.
 
On the FDP-Topic I?d just like to add my two cents, referring to what I wrote some pages earlier.
You might vote for a certain party on some (for you) vital topics, but the party might sacrifice those topics after the election to form said coalition to get other topics through. Wich makes them do a lot of promises to their clientel that they KNOW that they won?t have to keep because their "partner" in their coalition won?t go along with these topics. They all go into the election with kind of a spirit of"if we get over 50% we will do this and that", but they know they?ll never get 50% to rule by themselves (wich is fairly unlikeley given the past).
IMO the FDP has been very guilty of that in the past (on local, "landes" and "bundes" level) and I simply don?t trust them anymore. If they were really liberal, I might consider voting for them. But I remember too many tax raises, fear of reform and the willingness to surrender almost every one of their values to chancellor Kohl. After elected, it?s almost always been like they go too sleep and just nod to everything their coalitionpartner wants for the legislative period. You might say Kohl was 13 years ago and that the FDP has changed (and I?d really love to see and belive that), but I see nothing of that here in NRW (or in my own town) where they are at power. What I see are tons of broken promises and an unwillingness to reform in fear of pissing off one of their votergroups. For me, they are just like die linke in that respect. Massive amout of promises that they know they won?t have to keep. Let?s face it, if you are really liberal you won?t vote for the "Liberals" and wait for them to have nice sleep on the bench for 4 years while the conservatives (they will be governing with) screw with your personal rights - you vote pirate.
 
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@macGuffin: See my entry above - i don't care who's at fault or what the parent's background is. These kids are society's problem, and the earlier we both take them by the hand and kick their asses so that they get their gig together, the less we'll have to spend on them on the long run.

Yes but you have to solve problems at the roots, that's more important. Curing the disease is more important, than just curing the symptons of it.

And frankly I think a good step would be to get rid of our old school system. It was okay, as long as only the best really went to Gymnasium. It was still okay, when I grew up in the 1970's and early 1980's but already showing symptoms of decay back then.

It is tragic that having "Abitur" today is not a guarantee anymore, that those who got it are intelligent, can pass general knowledge tests or are able to write a letter in their own language without dozens of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes.
 
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Okay, here is what I have to say to those 38 theses:

1. Nuclear power plants should be kept running longer than previously planned.

No. Operator Vattenfall has just proven, that they are unable to guarantee a save and stabile run of a nuclear power plant. All of our power plants are old and outdated, so they will only get worse in time. There will be no new ones either. So concentrate on finding replacements and get rid of them fast. It will take a huge effort to dismantle them anyway. And the problem with nuclear waste is still not solved, because noboday wants it. Who will be paying for dismantling the existing ones and the final disposal? Right, the tax payer -- and not the operating companies. Because if they had to, they wouldn't have built those plants in the first place.

2. A nationwide minimum wage should be introduced.

Yes, it should. It's a tendency in Germany that companies and bosses get more and more exploitative. More and more "cheap jobs" are created and traditionally well-paid jobs are being replaced. And it is a fact, that people are differently paid for the identical work - sometimes even in the same company and the same department. Everyone should be paid the same money for the same work. A minimum wage would also guarantee that jobs aren't taken by cross-border workers from the still poorer East European countries, where you simply get more for 1 Euro and therefore can manage with lower wages. Minimum wages work fine in other countries, so no need to be afraid of it.

3. The German military should leave Afghanistan immediately.

No. They went into that mess with flying colours, thinking "How hard can it be?", believing they could only watch the Americans fighting while playing peacekeepers and pacifiers for the population. Now they realize it's not that comfy and people are actually dying. Tough luck but running away and leaving Afghanistan to itself is neither the right solution, nor is it fair to the people there. Clean up the mess you created, then leave. Or don't leave at all.


4. Germany should leave the European Union.

Definitely not. We're probably the country that benefits the most from being integrated into a free European market. There are some disadvantages but they will be sorted out. And whatever we pay for the EU, we get back with a profit due to the benefits. Plus a Germany without being integrated into the EU will arouse suspicion and create anxiety in no time. The Poles still jerk, when somebody here coughs.

5. Companies should be free to decide how much to pay their executives.

Yes, but only if it is made public for everyone to see, so that there is more pressure for the managers to justify their income. Also I think there should be a clause that executives who failed in their job -- for example by ruining a company --, will be stripped naked and driven through town, while the population can throw foul fruits and vegetables at them. That should be a good motivation to do a fine job.

6. German authorities should be banned from conducting secret online investigations of private computers.

Yes. Pandora's box mustn't be opened. Once a civil right is loosened, it will never be tied up again and it wouldbe misused, that is as certain as the Earth is rotating the sun.

7. Students should not pay tuition fees for their first university-level degree.

I agree. Not for their first degree and not if they study seriously. Everyone should get the chance to get out of their social background, no matter if they have money in the family or not.

8. All German states should implement obligatory language tests for preschool-aged children.

Yes. Not that I'm feeling too comfortable with it but obviously today's parents aren't doing their job right (and not only the immigrants!) in teaching pre-school knowledge to their kids. Language is the key to success and a career later. People who cannot articulate themselves right, have no chance at all with any personnel manager. You cannot start early enough to teach language skills and if parents are not able to take care of that, there should be an alternative method. Maybe that prevents our society from getting dumber and dumber, because that is what it feels like right now.

9. Ban animal testing without exceptions.

No. What do you want to use for tests instead? Children?

10. State ownership of private banks must be of a temporary nature only.

Definitely a yes. No explanation needed in the light of last year's events.

11. Trade relations with those countries abusing human rights should be terminated.

Wishful thinking. Even if we did that, some other country's leader would rub their hands and fill the gap. Sooner or later, when a country gets richer and more civilized, things will attend to themselves. There can be no general prosperity without freedom and human rights. Poverty always works into the hands of the totalitarians, so we should make any effort to help the rest of the world getting wealthy, too. Besides, how do you define a country that abuses huma rights? In the past decade the USA would have fallen under that category, too, and some say it does anyway, because it still keeps the death penalty and doesn't guarantee a monopoly on the legitimate use of violence by the state.

12. There should be a legal quota of leadership positions set aside for women.

Discrimination doesn't work well for both sides. So no. Besides, I strongly believe that hardcore feminists are not working on getting equality for women but to gain superiority over men.

13. Corporate taxes should be lowered.

No. Wrong approach. The problem with our tax systen is, that it's way too complicated and offers too many loopholes for avoiding taxes. Make it simpler and get rid of the loopholes, that'll work just fine. Demanding higher or lower taxes for companies or rich people is only populism.

14. Voters should be able to decide national issues via referenda.

Leadership should be exercised by capable individuals. As tempting as the idea of a grassroots democracy might be, it is not suitable for practial use. It will always support populism and trying to keep the status quo, because the majority of people do not have the abilities a national leader needs to have. Also current events can influence the outcome in a major way, so no. Just no.

15. Parents choosing not make use of a day care spot should receive a childcare subsidy.

Why should parents get money for leaving the kids at home and do the job that has been appointed to them by nature? Getting a child these days is a matter of free will. They know what they get themselves into. So no.

16. Every youth should be guaranteed an apprenticeship.

And how will you force unwanted apprentices on workshops and companies? Great way to start a career by being unwelcome. Your boss will definitely make you feel that way and you can count on being out of a job again the day after you finish your training. And what about the achievement principle in the first place?

17. Job-protection measures should be loosened.

No, no, no. Our job-protection measures are one of the finest achievements of our still young democracy. We don't have the American kind of job culture, which is in general ruled by fairness and acknowledging good work. German companies are not able to act fair on their own or handle the responsibilities that come with it. They even have trouble acting responsible and fair as it is today, with all those regulations in place. Imagine what it would be, if they were loosened.

18. Turkey should be allowed to become a full member of the EU.

No. At least not yet. They still have to prove they are a worthy member. There is still a lot of religious fundamentalism in Turkey, that has a strong political influence and the EU has to be a religion-free institution in order to work properly. Also the social structures in Turkey are in wide areas still like in the middle ages. You'd get the whole package from pre-arranged marriages to family feuds and blood revenge.

19. There should be a general speed limit on German autobahns.

No. Because there is absolutely no reason for it whatsoever. It's just an ideology thing of the greens and some leftists.

20. Students and apprentices should have a right to financial aid (BAf?G) regardless of income of their parents.

No. Why should the tax payers pay for them, when their parents have the money? The responsibility for education of children should still lie mainly with the parents and only when they cannot handle it, the state should interfere.

21. The Deutsche mark should replace the Euro.

Bullshit.

22. Ecological farming should receive more aid from the government.

No. I'm against any kind of subsidies. If the German people shall eat healthier, it must be regulated within the market and by its rules. Stricter laws for listing ingredients on packages and a certification system based on nutritonal value could help with that, but it's blocked by the lobby of the big food companies.

23. Christian values should be the guiding factor for German politics.

Religion should stay out of politics. The values we cherish today, are not exclusive to Christian belief anyway. There are religions which are even more tolerant and don't have such a bloody history of violence. Should we exclude those in our system of values then? Christianity is fine as a religion but has proven throughout the last 2000 years, that it is incapable of being a paragon of humanity when it comes to leadership or guidance. So no.

24. German railway operator Deutsche Bahn should remain entirely owned by the state.

Yes, it should. Because it has been proven that privately owned companies cannot handle a task like public transport on a national level. See Great Britain as an example. Even though the German railway is still owned by the state and has yet only been trying to prepare for entering the stock exchange, there are already negative results, which effects the safety and functionality of the system. Berlin is currently suffering from problems with their surface S-Bahn system, because owner Deutsche Bahn has cut on the safety checks to save money, which resulted in broken axles earlier this year and now has produced the next problem with faulty brakes. The publically owned underground system, however, works perfectly well.

25. Military conscription should be retained in its current form.

Currently our military is in fact not large enough to sustain a compulsory military service. The sorting process of who to recruit will inevitably produce unfairness. However, the strength of German Bundeswehr has always been the complete integration into society, because every family contained members that served in the forces. This way it was guaranteed that Bundeswehr hadn't even the slightest chance of developing a parallel society within its ranks. When the conscription falls, that might change. So right now I am all for keeping it the way it is.

26. Germany should allow the production of genetically modified food.

Sure and why not? There is no fundamental difference with changing the genom directly and wittingly, instead of bombarding a plant with radioactive radiation in order to see how it mutates (which is how it is currently done). There is a lot of irrational fear involved in this, which mainly results from the misconception that the food we eat today, hasn't been manipulated. Well, it has -- and massively so. And what's worse, it has been modified with chemicals, using more harmful methods, than genetics can ever offer.

27. Gay couples should have fully equal rights to adopt children.

I have difficulties with generalising that. I still believe that a child should be the natural result of a man and a woman having sexual intercourse and that both genders should contribute their part to the child's upbringing. However, I have nothing against gay couples, fully support gay marriage and have sympathy for their desire to raise a child. And it surely is better for a child to be grown up by two women or two men, than having no parents at all. I believe this is the kind of thing that has to be decided individually case by case. So I stay neutral here.

28. Germany should reinstate a tax on wealth.

No. Punishing people for being successful in life is not the right way, besides this demand comes only from envy and I hate envy.

29. Education policy should be determined at the state level.

No, definitely not. That system is outdated. It's unacceptable today that it depends on which state you made your degree in, when you apply for a job somewhere else. For example with a graduation diploma from a high school in Bremen you might not be able to get a job in Bavaria, because they have different demands. Every child should get the same level of education all over the country and thus have the same chances when applying for a job.

30. It should be made easier to receive asylum in Germany.

We already have a sufficient system for that. No need to change it.

31. Co-payment fees for doctor visits should be eliminated.

Yes, it should. I suffer from migraines and despite my health insurance covering the doctor's fee, I still have to pay 10 Euros in cash to my doctor every 3 months for a phone call and a small piece of paper with his signature, so I can get a discount on the pills I need. And what makes matters worse, is that those 10 Euros are only valid for my house doctor. If I have to go to the dentist, I have to pay another 10 Euros!

32. If wages sink, state pensions must be cut accordingly.

No. Because we have a "generation contract", that says you receive a certain pension for your life-long payments into the social welfare system. If you cancel that contract, you have to install an alternative system instead. However, it's never wrong to take care of your monthly income as a retiree with additional private precaution and that already works fine.

33. German firms should not be allowed to export weapons.

I'm against exporting landmines and all stuff that mainly effects civilians. But apart from that, why shouldn't we export weapons? In some areas we are even leading (Tanks, conventionally powered submarines, guns) and why should we be the only country that doesn't trade in weapons?

34. Germany?s structured school system with Haupt, Real and Gymnasium secondary schools should be retained.

In its current state, no. And it's been explained above by other why that is so.

35. Everyone with permanent residency in Germany should be allowed to vote in municipal elections.

No. The right to elect shouldn't be something that is given to people for free. You have to either have the birthright by being born and raised here, or you have to earn the right to vote by participating and becoming a valuable member of society. I can imagine a rule where someone who contributed a lot to a community, can be rewarded with being able to vote, though.

36. Unemployment benefits known as Hartz IV should be raised significantly.

No. The system is designed to make it undesirable to be out of a job. Before Hartz IV was introduced, people often received more money from the state, than they would receive for a job. Let's keep it that way. Those who are willing and able to work, have a good motivation to find a new job. Those who aren't, will sooner or later live from social welfare anyway. I have a cousin who went through this with his family. It was a hard time for all of them, they had to move from southern Germany to northern Germany but in the end he prevailed and now has a BMW X3 as a company car ;)

37. The German military the Bundeswehr should be deployed domestically to fight terrorism.

No. Using the military against the own population (even if it is against violent radicals or terrorists), is an absolute no-go in a democracy. It also would alienate the Bundeswehr from the rest of the population and lower the acceptance. Currently the Bundeswehr is very respected and trusted that should remain this way. We have police forces for that who do a fine job and haven't been overcharged with keeping the internal peace yet.

38. The type of democracy Germany has is the best form of government there is.

It isn't perfect, it has its flaws, but yeah... I guess it is as best as it can get.
 
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13. Corporate taxes should be lowered.

No. Wrong approach. The problem with our tax systen is, that it's way too complicated and offers too many loopholes for avoiding taxes. Make it simpler and get rid of the loopholes, that'll work just fine. Demanding higher or lower taxes for companies or rich people is only populism.

If you say higher taxes for companies is populism, why don't you think they should be lowered?

15. Parents choosing not make use of a day care spot should receive a childcare subsidy.

Why should parents get money for leaving the kids at home and do the job that has been appointed to them by nature? Getting a child these days is a matter of free will. They know what they get themselves into. So no.

By that logic, we shouldn't be providing the daycare spots in the first place, because it rewards parents for getting kids, and then going off getting full-time jobs, abandoning the kids and just being Rabeneltern in general, who never see their kids.


7. Students should not pay tuition fees for their first university-level degree.

I agree. Not for their first degree and not if they study seriously. Everyone should get the chance to get out of their social background, no matter if they have money in the family or not.
20. Students and apprentices should have a right to financial aid (BAf?G) regardless of income of their parents.

No. Why should the tax payers pay for them, when their parents have the money? The responsibility for education of children should still lie mainly with the parents and only when they cannot handle it, the state should interfere.

I think your stances on these two issues contradict each other. If you claim that rich kids should not get their studies financed by the state, but then claim that the first education needs to be free... the only reason why education is free in Germany is because it is already financed by the state/taxes, therefore the education of rich kids is also being financed by the taxpayer, even though the parents could afford it.

No. The right to elect shouldn't be something that is given to people for free. You have to either have the birthright by being born and raised here, or you have to earn the right to vote by participating and becoming a valuable member of society. I can imagine a rule where someone who contributed a lot to a community, can be rewarded with being able to vote, though.

Bulgarians and similar kanacks are already allowed to vote here, you know.

Why should they be, but Australians should not?

EDIT: yeah, I said kanacks. You guys stop coming to this country to make trouble, and I'll stop using slurs to talk about you.
 
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You're still pissed that my Golf works and yours didn't, admit it :p

The contradictions you made out in my statements, aren't contradictions. And you'll probably see that, when you stop comparing apples with oranges and differentiate a bit more ;)

I don't wanna get into a quote/re-quote battle, so excuse me for not answering in detail right now. Maybe I do that later.
 
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