Hey, at least I'm actually trying to make a valid argument.
You ignored my longish post a few pages back where I told you why Toyota as car company doesn't deserve to die, and why your poll is completely irrelevant. You ignored that one, but keep going on aboot this whole thing.
I think instead of banning me someone should just close this thread. It's painfully obvious the M3 is a better car, but that says nothing new about either BMW or Toyota. BMW has been working on its performance image for decades, while Toyota has a family oriented image and Lexus has almost no image at all (outiside Americas).