The_Finn
Well-Known Member
Here's an idea. Give them a GPS with the talking female voice.
Turn Left 100m. Turn Right 200m.
The note system is actually pretty intricate
Pacenotes
Jemba Inertia Notes System
Here's an idea. Give them a GPS with the talking female voice.
Turn Left 100m. Turn Right 200m.
@Necxo
loeb's car looks quite in line from inside, but from outside you can see he still uses oversteer (i was just watching him drifting heavily on tarmac, even where drifting is less apparent), also anti-lag isnt almigthy and you still benefit from left foot braking.
and there is no "more drift/less drift" driving, you drift as much as you need to make the corner. there is less apparent oversteer today because there is more grip than before, but there still is oversteer. and yes, drifting can be scrubbing off speed, and they use it to that extent when they are overspeeding into the corner.
that argument about loeb being fastest because of no-drift stule is invalid, because every wrc driver is a professional and if they saw that his style is faster it would be their obligation to change their styles accordingly in order to make their cars as fast as possible. and there are a lot more parameters to success in rallying than something that simple...you could also say that because there is no drift in lower echelons of rallying, that they are faster and better drivers, but we all know that they are not...
I have a rally question as well, why do they drift around corners? isn't that just scrubbing off speed?
I have a rally question as well, why do they drift around corners? isn't that just scrubbing off speed?
What i want to know for example is, how it got started, why it was made this way, who though about it first...
Thanks for the help
In gravel and deep snow, ABS tends to increase braking distances. On these surfaces, locked wheels dig in and stop the vehicle more quickly.
On a very slippery surface such as sheet ice or gravel it is possible to lock multiple wheels at once, and this can defeat ABS (which relies on detecting individual wheels skidding).
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But part of the answer is that on HEAVY snow, locked wheels can be useful because they gather up a "wedge" of snow which helps to slow the vehicle. ABS allows this wedge to clear every time the wheels are unlocked. The same can apply on sand in some conditions.
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A June 1999 NHTSA study found that ABS increased stopping distances on loose gravel by an average of 22 percent
Yeah, I know. I was joking.
You do need the co-driver nowadays as much as in the past.
At speeds of 100mph and above, it`s absolutely impossible to remember a 10Mile stage and all the obstacles on it properly.
It`s not just a thing of speed, but a thing of safety as well. If you miss a corner on a f1 circuit, you end up in the sand trap. If you miss it on a rally, you end up in a tree. For example, if there`s a left/right chicane in a forest, you may not see the second part of it until it`s too late. But the co-driver informs you about it at least one curve ahead so you can prepare the speeed and the angle for it. So you can concentrate on your car and your driving. It`s the most fascinating thing for me that these people trust each other absolutely 100%. The driver believes in the data he`s given just before and the co believes that the driver will get him around the corner well.
I would say it`s also much better if you`re involved in an accident. Even today the medicals can`t get to all parts of a rally stage as fast as you want. So it might be good if you can help each other, just in case. And if another racer appears at the scene, he probably can do much more for them with the help of his co-driver as he could do alone.
Ultimately, it seems the "reason" for the navigator directly came from the 1900s then, when they were very useful for long stretches of navigation, motivation, and i suspect, secondary drivers...(?!). So technically, there are no real reason for Navigators "today", but their job was kept and brought up to date. Cool stuff.
Walter Rohrl always had a more understeer based style as well.....and he was the fastest rally driver ever.
Necx0 said:]
Most people "flick" the car into the corner as strange as it sounds.....a slightly unsettled oversteering car is easier to control than a neutral to understeering car if something unexpected happens. But whenever you are sliding you are losing time.