The awesome boats thread

bone · Dec 7, 2010

Blind_Io said:
A ballistic missile is not a cruise missile.

educate the ignorant europeans, what's the difference?

they both explode, don't they?

h-p · Dec 7, 2010

bone said:
educate the ignorant europeans, what's the difference?

they both explode, don't they?

Ballistic missile makes a nice ballistic arc. Cruise missile flys like an aeroplane, more or less.

Blind_Io · Dec 7, 2010

bone said:
educate the ignorant europeans, what's the difference?

they both explode, don't they?

A ballistic missile has a boost phase where it is under power, then it coasts on that momentum on a ballistic trajectory before hitting it's target by falling almost straight down. A ballistic projectile is more like an artillery shell with a boost of power at the start of the trip that provides the momentum to get all the way to the target. It is very hard to defend against ballistic missiles because they come down from above at supersonic speeds. ICBMs, or Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, achieve sub-orbital space flight to reach their targets. Shorter range ballistic missiles might not leave the atmosphere, or may only reach the upper levels of the stratosphere at the peak of their flight.

https://pic.armedcats.net/b/bl/blind_io/2010/12/07/atomic_icbm_trajectory_650.jpg

A cruise missile is a winged missile that flies close to the ground and uses an air-breathing jet engine for the entire trip. Often a short boost phase is used to get the missile out of the launch tube but this lasts no more than a couple seconds. The missile then deploys wings and starts it's jet engine. Such a missile is capable of flying complex pre-programmed routes to the target, is often equipped with sophisticated sensors and software to fly very close to the ground, and often can visually identify the target for the final attack (combined with the mission profile and GPS). I believe some naval anti-ship cruise missile are able to identify specific ship types by the silhouette and can be programmed, for example, to ignore the escort ships of a fleet an only attack the carrier.

Cruise missiles can be launched from ground launching stations, mobile launch vehicles, submarines, surface ships and even aircraft that are in flight.

h-p · Dec 7, 2010

Aww... you changed the picture before I could make a bad joke about ~~pha~~ballistic arc.

Labcoatguy · Dec 7, 2010

Short answer: the ballistic missile flies like an artillery shell (ie not really flying, but at the mercy of gravity), while the cruise missile is basically an unmanned airplane.

Blind_Io · Feb 20, 2011

Pry · Feb 21, 2011

[video=youtube;-e6shKxaxfo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e6shKxaxfo[/video]

Back in the day these were real performance boats so they were equipped with big V8's instead of the diesels they use on new Rivas.

Aston Martin · Feb 21, 2011

Pry said:
instead of the diesels they use on new Rivas.

Seriously? :blink:

Pry · Feb 21, 2011

Diesels are usually considered as more desireable but also more expensive option on new boats.
So the new boats with petrol engines are usually either cheap (or small) or seriously high performance (like Hydrolift r-series or American cigarette boats).
New Rivas are more like very expensive luxury cruisers so obviously they come with diesels.

Commodore · Mar 1, 2011

Pry said:
Diesels are usually considered as more desireable but also more expensive option on new boats.
So the new boats with petrol engines are usually either cheap (or small) or seriously high performance (like Hydrolift r-series or American cigarette boats).
New Rivas are more like very expensive luxury cruisers so obviously they come with diesels.

If anything, this makes them more beautiful.

marcos_eirik · Mar 1, 2011

Great news on the SS United States...

Another milestone in avoiding the scrappers was reached earlier this month, as the SS Unites States Conservancy officially took over the title for the ship, and they now, formally, own it. (New York Times) (Wall Street Journal)

I really hope they get it nice and shiny again, just like when she were in service:

She will obviously never enter service again, but it would be great to see her, one of only a very few surviving ocean liners...

Cowboy · Mar 1, 2011

marcos_eirik said:
Great news on the SS United States... Another milestone in avoiding the scrappers was reached earlier this month, as the SS Unites States Conservancy officially took over the title for the ship, and they now, formally, own it. (New York Times) (Wall Street Journal)

I really hope they get it nice and shiny again, just like when she were in service:

She will obviously never enter service again, but it would be great to see her, one of only a very few surviving ocean liners...

Hell yeah! :thumbsup:

Viper007Bond · Mar 20, 2011

Average Guy · Mar 20, 2011

I thought this was obligatory to this thread

Ediy: Apparently so did some other people at the very first page -.-
Checked almost every page but not the first one. Fail...

Pedrocas · Mar 20, 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Cougar_Ace

Pedrocas · Mar 20, 2011

Before:

http://img535.imageshack.**/img535/6652/reijin2.jpg

After:

http://img143.imageshack.**/img143/4163/reijin3.jpg

Cowboy · Mar 20, 2011

Stop postwhoring......

jasonof2000 · Mar 20, 2011

Pedrocas said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Cougar_Ace

Nothing was awesome about what happened with the Cougar Ace, the boat itself was a box with engines, meh.

CrzRsn · Mar 22, 2011

Measurements:

LOA: 82.00 meters
LWL: 67.40 meters
Beam (max): 14.20 meters
Draft (loaded): 3.90 meters
Construction: Hull ? Steel, Superstructure ? Aluminum
Displacement: 2136 tons
Gross Tonnage: 2159 tons
Water capacity: 150,000 litres

Design & Management:

Naval architect: Oceanco / Azure
Exterior stylist: Nuvolari & Lenard
Interior designer: Alberto Pinto
Builder?s project manager: Jeroen Mulder
Owner?s project manager: Louis Rich, George Mourkakos

Power & Performance:

Main engines: 2 x 4,680 hp / 3,492 kW, MTU 16V 595 TE 70
Gearbox: Reintjes, type WAF 2355
Propellers/alternative propulsion: W?rtsil? (Lips)
Shafts: Rubber Design
Steering gear: Rolls Royce Marine AS Tenfjord, type SR 622-FCP
Exhaust systems: Marquip
Max Speed: 21 knots
Cruise Speed: 14 knots
Fuel capacity: 294,000litres
Range at economical cruising speed: 6,000 nautical miles
Tank testing: Based on Y701, which was tank tested at HSVA.

Onboard Systems:

Stabilizers: Rolls Royce Aquarius 50 (retractable with zero-speed option)
Windlass: Steen (electrically frequency driven)
Bow thruster: Jastram, type BU 50F, Input power 300 kW
Stern thruster: Veth, type VL 200 (retractable), Input power 250 kW
Passerelle & bathing ladder: Hydromar
Cranes: Van Driel
Exterior paint: Awlgrip system
Watermakers: H.E.M., type 40/4800, 2x 22,000 liters per day
Sewage system: Hamann
Generators: MTU 8V2000 M50A, 3 x 332 kW
Shorepower converter: Trafa, type BSD 242949, 400 kVA
Control and monitoring systems: Alewijnse
Air conditioning: Heinen & Hopman
Galley equipment: Moeleker
Refrigeration: NR Koeling
Entertainment systems: Van Berge Henegouwen; a Crestron controlled system with central sources from two Seatel antenna?s, Kaleidoscope music and video player, FM radio and terrestrial antenna with local placed plasma and LCD screen?s and a cinema in the upper deck salon.

Fire control system:

Marioff - interior watermist system
Novec - FiFi system in engine room
Viking - Fixed water FiFi system
Viking - Portable foam applicator for helicopter-deck
Viking - Portable powder / foam / CO2 extinguishers

Communications:

Inmarsat C DEBEG 3220C, Inmarsat MINI M, Inmarsat F77, SSB radio DEBEG 3105 150W, VHF DEBEG 6301, DEBEG RT 5022

Navigation:

Integrated Navigation System SAM, NACOS 65-5; 2x DEBEG 3400 DGPS and imrad GN33D systems, DEBEG 4630 Echo sounder, SAM 4120 Speed log

Accommodations:

Number of owner/guest cabins:

1 Master stateroom
2 double VIP suites
1 double guest cabin
2 twin guest cabins

Number of crew cabins:

1 double captain?s cabin
1 single engineer?s cabin
12 twin bunked crew cabins
1 triple bunked crew cabin

Noise and vibration levels: (dB in key areas at 80% MCR)

Owner?s suite 43 dB(A)
Dining area 45 dB(A)
Main saloon 49 dB(A)
Upper saloon 48 dB(A)
Guest cabins 40 dB(A)
Captain?s cabin 38 dB(A)
Crew cabins 40 dB(A)

Tenders:

Yachtwerft Meyer, custom build limo guest tender
Novurania MX 780 DL, custom made crew tender Correct craft, Ski Nautique 196 limited

Launching systems:

1 overhead davit, hydraulically operated
2 overhead rotating cranes, hydraulically operated

https://pic.armedcats.net/c/cr/crazyrussian540/2011/03/21/23755-review-oceanco-269-alfa-nero-y702-skylounge-upper-deck.jpg
https://pic.armedcats.net/c/cr/crazyrussian540/2011/03/21/24646-review-oceanco-269-alfa-nero-y702-main-lower-deck-colour.jpg

:drool:

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/oceanco-yacht/9024-review-oceanco-269-alfa-nero.html

narf · Mar 22, 2011

My brother hard(ly?) at work:

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