Micheal Jackson in hospital [Updated: Dead]

Shawn said:
I don't get why people who don't like his music come in this thread and comment on how they don't care that he's died because they think he was a pedophile or because they don't like his music.
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Because it's a forum and people post their various opinions about everything under the sun, whether those opinions be positive or negative. It's what we do here ;)
 
Viper007Bond said:
Sorry, but I highly doubt that. Sure, he'll be remembered for his music, but he'll also be remembered for being a whackjob.
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So long as Neverland Ranch isn't made into a Graceland-esque shrine, it's doubtful. His whacko moments will steadily fade from memory as people just don't care, especially people a generation removed from the events.

Off the Wall and Thriller are going to be all that remains.
 
Shawn is the only one even talking sense here.

The man was a machine, selling 750 million copies worldwide. Coming in here and laughing about it is inappropriate. A man died, and you laugh. What have any of you ever done that MJ didn't? (Touching kids doesn't count) He was a better man then all of you.

Respect him or GTFO, we don't need to hear your bullshit.
 
jeffy777 said:
Because it's a forum and people post their various opinions about everything under the sun, whether those opinions be positive or negative. It's what we do here ;)
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Though I don't agree with some of the things being said about him, I do agree with this. The point is freedom of opinion here and weather we like it or not we accept it. +1
 
jeffy777 said:
Because it's a forum and people post their various opinions about everything under the sun, whether those opinions be positive or negative. It's what we do here ;)
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I would agree with that statement wholeheartedly in any other thread, but this thread is now about a deceased singer. I think people could show a little restraint at least given the guy just died at age 50 from a coronary... people should absolutely speak their minds, but I think a little respect is due in some cases.

Anyway, I've said all there is to say on this topic I guess... you guys post whatever you want, no skin off my back. RIP Michael.
 
Reckoning said:
I lold when I first read it, because I wasn't expecting to wake up and read that.

It's a shame when 99% of the population die really, but I just won't feel much sorrow for him.
He lived a decently long life, made a lot of money, did a lot of things.
Not exactly like he hasn't 'lived' his life.
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He was 50, how is that living his life? My parents are 50-ish but that doesn't mean that them dying now would be alright. It's a sad day in the world of pop because the king of pop has died. I respect the man for his work in the 80's and understand that he was a tortured soul. Although that doesn't justify him molesting children, you still have to understand he was not in a right state of mind coming out of the 80's and no one will understand what was going through his head in the past years that caused him to act like that.

In one word this situation can be described as "Fucked."
 
Apparently his body got moved from UCLA to USC medical center to dodge the media circus and conduct his coroner's case autopsy with less interference. A friend of mine works as an ICU nurse over there and the staff was informed of the body's arrival.
 
Shawn said:
I would agree with that statement wholeheartedly in any other thread, but this thread is now about a deceased singer. I think people could show a little restraint at least given the guy just died at age 50 from a coronary... people should absolutely speak their minds, but I think a little respect is due in some cases.

Anyway, I've said all there is to say on this topic I guess... you guys post whatever you want, no skin off my back. RIP Michael.
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I apologize. I should be more respectful (although I really didn't say much compared to other comments I've read). I just get annoyed when I think about the lives of the children he may have damaged.......but out of respect, I'll focus on the positive and what he did for music instead.
 
Here's an interesting take on today's events for my fellow Gen X'ers:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529126,00.html
Two Lost Icons: For Generation X, A Really Bad Day
Thursday , June 25, 2009

A record-shattering vinyl album and its moonwalking maestro. A paper poster of a golden-haired beauty in a one-piece swimsuit that was gossamer and clingy in all the right places.

It all seems so quaint now, the fragmented dream memories of a fleeting micro-era that began with words like "bicentennial" and "pet rock" and ended with MTV, Atari and absurdly thin cans of super-hold mousse.

The man-child named Michael Jackson and the luminous girl known as Farrah Fawcett-Majors jumped into our consciousness at a plastic moment in American culture ? a time when the celebrity juggernaut we know today was still in diapers. When they departed Thursday, just a few hours and a few miles apart, they left an entire generation ? a very strange generation indeed ? without two of its defining figures.

"These people were on our lunchboxes," said Gary Giovannetti, 38, a manager at HBO who grew up on Long Island awash in Farrah and MJ iconography. "This," he said, "is the moment when Generation X realizes they're grown up."

It was a long time coming. Cynical, disaffected, rife with ADD, lost between Boomers and millennials and sandwiched between Vietnam and the war on terror, Gen X has always been an oddity. It was the product of a transitional age when we were still putting people on celebrity pedestals but only starting to make an industry out of dragging them down.

Its memorable moments were diffuse and confusing ? the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt, the dawn of AIDS, the explosion of the Space Shuttle Challenger. It had no protest movement, no opponent to unite it, none of the things that typically shape the ill-defined beast we call an American generation.

These were the people who sent to the top of the charts a song called "We Don't Need Another Hero," then figured out how to churn them out wholesale, launching the celebrity obsession that is now an accepted part of American cultural fabric.

And that was personified nowhere better than in the two people who died Thursday.

She was, perhaps, the last in a line that began with Betty Grable in World War II ? the bathing beauty who seemed kissed by the sun and exuded a potent combination of innocence and sexuality. But her "Charlie's Angels" jiggle-show image presaged another world entirely. It was the one that would come to be dominated first by Brooke and her Calvins and ultimately, as the hunger grew tawdrier, by American Apparel ads and the celebrity sex videos of Pamela Anderson and Paris Hilton.

She struggled for credibility after the poster and the Angels. She got it in 1984 with a dramatic turn as an abused wife in "The Burning Bed." But her last stand ? a documentary about the cancer that killed her ? was tainted by her run-ins with insatiable paparazzi and tabloids.

He was another thing entirely ? perhaps the most recognizable face in the world, even more so than the pope or Barack Obama. His musical genius and energy seemed boundless for a time. They were rivaled only by his quirks, which consumed him.

He had a bumpy, extraordinarily public childhood. Then he spent an off-the-wall lifetime trying to get it back, erecting a ranch named after the fantasy land of Peter Pan and inviting children to share his life and his bed ? with results that some said drifted into the criminal.

He caught fire in a Pepsi commercial. He shrouded his children in full-body coverings and dangled one over a balcony to show his fans below. His fabled multiple plastic surgeries turned him into someone almost unrecognizable. Nose sunk into face, cheekbones became caricature, ebony drifted into ivory.

Yet through it all, even when the years of his quirks outstripped the years of his glory, he remained one of the planet's most popular figures, selling out shows wherever he went. "Icon," the Rev. Al Sharpton said, was "only a fraction of what he was." But icon was, of course, what he always acted as if he wanted to be.

Today, celebrities aren't merely created for our consumption. Audiences are passive no longer. We demand a part in creating our icons: Jon and Kate Gosselin and their ilk might as well be publicly held companies, and we all insist upon buying a few shares. Farrah and Michael Jackson were other ? above us, maybe, or apart from us. Now, when we crown new icons, we want them to BE us.

"We want everything right now, and there's a blurring of reality. When does the celebrity world stop and our world begin?" said Penni Pier, an associate professor of communications at Wartburg College in Waverly, Iowa.

When Farrah gazed at us in her swimsuit and, a single moment in history later, MJ dared us to moonwalk, they commanded giant audiences. The world had not yet become fragmented into the microcommunities that exist today. We liked them or we hated them, but we shared the experience just as Walter Cronkite told us each night that "that's the way it is."

Today, when Lindsay Lohan Twitters pictures of herself to her legions of followers, the notion that a paper poster bought in a shopping-mall Spencer Gifts could change the celebrity game seems rustic. And the vinyl version of "Thriller," redolent of raw materials and production lines, is a ghost in the virtual world of iTunes ? a world that the generation after X negotiates with the fluidity of natives.

In the 1990s, members of Generation X would often laugh in bars about how the time of the Boomers was passing ? about how the quaintness and naivete that made up the 1960s was, finally, a grave being danced on by Kurt Cobain. Today, members of that same generation sit upon the ground and tell sad stories of the death of kings of pop.

A sexy poster upon a boy's wall in which a young woman grins wholesomely. A record album called "Thriller" and its attendant music videos, built upon the notion that sexiness came in the frisson of hints and suggestions rather than in cutting directly to the big reveal.

In the end, finally, they stand as the relics of a generation ? one that struggled to find its place and now, suddenly, while still young, one that must wonder if it is as passe as the paper and vinyl that its icons' most memorable moments were etched upon.

We don't need another hero? After this week, are we sure?
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Topgearfanatic said:
He was 50, how is that living his life? My parents are 50-ish but that doesn't mean that them dying now would be alright. It's a sad day in the world of pop because the king of pop has died. I respect the man for his work in the 80's and understand that he was a tortured soul. Although that doesn't justify him molesting children, you still have to understand he was not in a right state of mind coming out of the 80's and no one will understand what was going through his head in the past years that caused him to act like that.

In one word this situation can be described as "Fucked."
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A lot of people don't get to make it to 50, let alone having done all the things he has done.

Yes it's still a bit too early but it's not like a child with cancer who got no chance at life.
 
R.I.P.
 
Austere said:
Whoa. I just got up out of bed and this was the first thing I heard. I did not see this coming.

Farrah Fawcett died too but I guess I sorta did see that coming because she was very ill.
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yeah, I love how on most news sites it is all "Michael Jackson!!!!!! MICHAEL JACKSON!!!!!!!!!!" then a little side-note on her.

Personally, I feel more sorrow about her dying. But I still feel a bit sad about Jacko, more for his kids than anything.
 
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People who are happy about this disgust me. If the allegations are true, the penalty is hardly a death sentence. The man wasn't hurting anyone but himself in many years now.

But the fact that one of the most skilled vocalists and performance artists you'll ever know is dead, does make it a bit of sad day. Even if no one was expecting any new material from him any more...
 
wonder what theyre gonna do about all his planned gigs n stuff? refunds? g ahead with tribute acts instead?

did the man even have any money left? he must of owed money to people, last i heard the organisers of the events in the UK wanted to sue him for going on tour seperate to the jackson 5 thing they had planned...or something of that sorts.

its sad that he is dead, but as an artist he's really not been here nor there with his later stuff....its all about the early-mid days for me, thats when he was at his best and thats what im gonna remember
 
RIP Michael Jackson.
 
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